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Re: STFU

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I regularly engage in meetings when taking a dump, but only when I'm working from home, and of course flushing only on mute. I don't have a problem with that, the other side has no idea where I am anyway.

Everyone knows you're in a toilet due to the acoustics, but no-one is going to bring it up out of courtesy. Everyone also thinks less of you for it.

I highly doubt it. Most people are in rooms with bad acoustics to begin with.

Re: STFU

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post #174

This is a fun app. One way I deal with people talking on speakerphone, is inviting myself into their conversation and making comments as if I were an active participant. That usually earns me a weird look, and then they go off speaker so I can't hear what's been said. Success. Similar with folks watching reels on speaker, I fake a laugh or make comments about the content. It's awkward enough that they usually stop be…

How do you deal with the small possibility that the offending person is unhinged (since they’ve already chosen to throw out societal mores out the window) and could physically hurt you?

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post #88

Here's one I don't know how to solve: at work some folks take meetings in the bathroom. They're on their phone, they walk to a stall, do their... business while doing their business, all the while talking and listening, while toilets flush in the background. I understand cultural differences but taking business meetings in the bathroom seems inappropriate under effectively all circumstances.

I regularly engage in meetings when taking a dump, but only when I'm working from home, and of course flushing only on mute. I don't have a problem with that, the other side has no idea where I am anyway.

Yeah this whole thread is absolutely filled with prudes as far as I'm concerned. Everybody poops, get over it.

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post #172

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I understand the overwhelming opposition to this, and I wouldn't do it myself. However, I lead a life of very few meetings (I'd actually appreciate more--this stance puts me in a very small company, to be sure), so it's easy for me to say that one should be more judicious with one's timing. I can emphathise with someone stuck in meetings all day in a predominantly listening role, that they consider perfunctory or mos…

As a matter of fact, I do NOT understand the overwhelming opposition to this. What's your deal if a guy is good at multitasking and people on the other end of the wire don't mind it? It isn't like he is desecrating a temple, or intruding into your home and using your toilet, or jerking off in the public... Wait, actually I'd say even the latter shouldn't be your business, unless he stains something. Why cannot people…

It’s either a weird power flex, or someone who lacks agency at the point that they let themselves be bullied and not taking a break to take a dump.

It’s the breaking of a norm that makes me be question your judgment, either way.

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post #33

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Have you tried asking many people to "keep it down"? Generally that doesn't end with them politely keeping it down.

As with anything in life, it depends on how you ask.

While I agree and I'm not the OP you're replying to this feels like the burden of societal correction needs to be on the wronged and not on the person committing it?

It's tolerating the intolerant (their intolerance to understanding social order). They need to be bludgeoned back (metaphorically).

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post #171

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https://shokz.com There you go. Quite comfortable, don’t have to stick them inside your ears, and still allows you to perceive the sounds around you. In the spirit of fairness, I’ll also share the cons from my experience: First is battery life isn’t as good as headphones. That’s somewhat obvious as they’re much smaller, but they will still last you the whole day so not really an issue for hiking. Second one is that b…

Whether they realize it or not, most of the population can't afford this. Cheap Bluetooth speakers are, well, cheap!

Then buy a cheaper brand. I just did a no-effort search on Amazon and found some under $30.

Additionally, “I can’t afford the alternative” is not a valid excuse to be an asshole to those around you.

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I've heard many people say the cannot stand they way earbuds feel. Just like many people said they could not breath wearing a mask.

I'm one of those people - I find any "in-ear" headphone/earbud to be outrageously uncomfortable. Great news - there are a TON of alternatives! You're still an asshat if you play loud music without regard for your surroundings. My personal pick? Get a bone conduction headset (ex: Shokz or cheaper alternative). Comfortable, lightweight, waterproof, you can still hear your surroundings.

I have a Shokz brand two-piece headset (the OpenFit 2+ i think?) that just wraps around the outside of the ear, with the actual speaker part held just outside the ear canal. I can't do in-ear buds either, but these just work for me. Doesn't even feel like anything's there.

I did try their bone-conduction headphones, but the quality was slightly worse and they didn't feel as nonexistent to wear.

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You touched a nerve for me — folks hiking with Bluetooth speakers. My god that grinds my gears. I can see an argument for playing music (at reasonable volume) while relaxing at a camp site, but on the trail it’s as aggravating as a dirt bike or snowmobile ripping along near by.

In potentially-dangerous-animal country (e.g. grizzly bears, mountain lions, etc), it could be a safety mechanism...I was told repeatedly you need to make some kind of distinctive noise regularly so they won't get startled by you rounding a bend.

lol.

that's like harley riders with unmuffled motors "for safety".

On the other hand, I remember being in japan and watching some construction vehicles in tokyo. They were surprisingly quiet. After a while I realized what it was - in the united states all construction vehicles have these annoying "beep-beep-beep" sounds while they're working (for safety).

I wonder if one day they can play those only when someone walks nearby or play in some technologically quieter way.

Re: STFU

#229
post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

I also sound cranky a lot lately when complaining about loud or unwelcome sounds in public spaces. So this project (and your comment) resonates with me.

Also yes, hiking with a bluetooth speaker is particularly galling. you're in nature! For that reason I've been considering buying (or building) a portable bluetooth jammer. I wouldn't do all the time, no reason to punish someone using wireless earphones respectfully. It'd need to have a trigger for JIT intervention.

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post #211

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Robert Caro, in the LBJ series, wrote about how LBJ would use the discomfort of being the bathroom as a negotiating technique and a show of dominance. He would drag senators into the bathroom and force them to listen to him talk as he used the urinal, or force his staffers to take dictation as he took a shit.

Crazily enough, I’ve also heard he pulled his Johnson out in meetings.

There is a joke here somewhere.
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