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Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by bombcar »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #212
geerlingguy wrote: post #117

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Not arguing against Resolve, but FCP is still great for edits. It lacks some flashy social media features and modern conveniences for sure, but it's still a very good and widely used editor.

It lacks a lot more than flashy social media features - and given their biggest driver in the 2010’s was arguably YouTubers, they actually need more robust social media features. For starters, they just added voice isolation what? A year ago? That has been bog-standard for resolve and premiere for years now. The audio tools in general are still very subpar. I used it professionally from 2011-2020 or so. Around 2020 t…

Based on revenue estimates, if Apple wanted to be competitive here, they could buy Blackmagic for a billion or so ...

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Post by dylan604 »

jonwinstanley wrote: post #111
thecupisblue wrote: post #21

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That's actually surprisingly cheap compared to other subscriptions in the industry, especially for such a high powered suite.

As long as you buy a macbook to use it on, they are happy

They'd be even happier if you bought one of the Mac Studios or Mac Pro. Please, someone, anyone.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by nozzlegear »

darrenf wrote: post #185
nozzlegear wrote: post #176

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What data centers? Does Apple even have data centers? Can people purchase compute on Apple's data centers?

> What data centers? Does Apple even have data centers? Apple absolutely has data centres. Where do you think Apple TV, Apple Music, iCloud, Maps, etc compute happens? Here's a press release straight from the horse's mouth about one in Denmark, in late 2020: https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2020/09/apple-expands-rene... > Can people purchase compute on Apple's data centers? Not to my knowledge, but that's not saying…

> Not to my knowledge, but that's not saying much.

But that's the entire crux of their comment: undercut the competition, and make them pay for compute on Apple's data centers.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by philistine »

thecupisblue wrote: post #21
jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

That's actually surprisingly cheap compared to other subscriptions in the industry, especially for such a high powered suite.

The competition for the Creator Studio is not exactly Adobe. Of course Apple will be happy to build on their offerings to be able to really take on Adobe, but this subscription is priced to compete with the online services popping up from nowhere that have stolen the ease of use market away from Adobe.

The real competition in this market in 2026 is Canva.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by groundzeros2015 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #64
jasoneckert wrote: post #51

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The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

It's pretty clever that they keep the "pay one time" option still alive while announcing the availability of subscription, so anyone who says "Boo, not you too Apple" can easily be shut down with "You still have the option to buy it!" instead of leaving those critics without answers. Of course, they'll eventually remove the option to buy the software by paying once, I think everyone can see the writing on the wall, b…

You are complaining about a problem that hasn’t happened yet and there is no inherent reason it will happen.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by bee_rider »

bombcar wrote: post #204
sofixa wrote: post #189

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Apple hardware has "only" a 36% margin, while their software and services have a 75% margin. They definitely want to make more money on software with absurd margins.

A huge portion of that margin is from the 33% App Store cut which is infinite margin for them, effectively. "software and services" really should be broken out from the App Store cut.

Is margin profit/revenue or profit/costs? I think it is the former, so it should be “effectively 100%” right?

Anyway, this isn’t really a meaningful quibble argument-wise, it is obvious what you mean!

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by philistine »

tomovo wrote: post #199

It's a pity Apple didn't choose to acquire Affinity when there was a chance. Pixelmator Pro looks like a toy app compared to Logic or Final Cut. I don't see how it could ever catch up to Photoshop. Even at such small scale it's always been very buggy in my experience and development seems to have stalled (apart from some obligatory AI features). I am glad the standalone purchases are still available and I assume they…

Affinity never made mac-assed Mac apps. Pixelmator is more a Mac app than Messages or Music. That's why they bought them instead of Affinity.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by asimpletune »

arvinsim wrote: post #159
bayindirh wrote: post #126

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The only "...for now" event I have seen in last 20 years of Apple software is iWorks and Mac OS X become free . ...and they integrated some of the Aperture to new Photos app, which is again was a transition to free. Name me something a product, not a service which you can only subscribe in Apple's ecosystem.

Logic Pro in iPad is subscription only.

They didn’t take away a one-time purchase option for it though. It just never existed to begin with so the op’s point remains.

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Post by wrs »

dylan604 wrote: post #217
pantulis wrote: post #183

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It's not outrageous, for sure, specially if you happen to have a use case for all the bundled apps. But things change if you consider that the one time payment for Logic Pro equals about 18 months of the subscription. In my case, I bought Logic Pro in 2013 for 180€. Obviously a subscription seems expensive no matter what the price is.

So you bought Logic Pro vX for 180€. Did you receive Logic Pro vX++ for free?

Yes, Logic updates have been free for many years. FCP as well.
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