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The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Depends. How’s the Amtrak chess bot?

I think the Amtrak way is to bring a physical chess board and challenge human strangers over a nice cup of coffee in the observation car.

Then stop for 56 hours to allow freight to go by.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Last time I flew Delta they no longer had this bot, which made me sad. One of my favorite parts of flying was getting absolutely crushed into a tiny cube by the airplane seat's easy chess bot, and then again by the airplane seat itself when the person in front of me reclines their seat.

Yeah...I know some delta pilots and apparently the inflight computers were sometimes spending more time playing chess than flying the plane...

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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post #162

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> when the person in front of me reclines their seat. As a reasonably tall person I have never reclined my seat and will forever consider anyone who does an asshole. The very fact that you can but don’t do something is the precise space where assholeness is defined.

I have never come across this opinion until it seemed to have blown up on the internet in the last few years.

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Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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post #189

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Lost an Apple iBook screen this way. Guy in front slammed his chair back while I was working on a presentation and the screen got caught at the perfect angle to flex it and it died. Didn't blame him, lesson learned, and I move my own seat back very slowly now.

Scary.. Did the airline comp you for that?

Of course not!

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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post #171

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Airlines shouldn't have reclining seats, it's bad design. Blaming people for the bad design is stupid. I never recline and still blame it on the design. Stupid people exist, you should design for that.

Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant… Not to mention that when my wife was pregnant she could barely manage her back pain -with- the recline, never mind without. The recline button is there for your use. You are welcome to avail of it yourself.

> Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant

Same flight with someone's seat resting on your knees is downright painful.

> when my wife was pregnant

Imagine if she was a bit taller and someone reclined the seat all the way over her.

> The recline button is there for your use

You're right, like any shared resource, "space" is there for you to use. It doesn't mean you have to use it, you could try to be aware of your surroundings and assess whether your small comfort should come at the cost of someone else's extreme discomfort. And if you use the button others are also free, and probably correct, to call you a dick. Like a guy who empties the bowl of complimentary candy someone offers to all customers.

You shouldn't need physical blocks or laws to define your own common sense and decency.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant… Not to mention that when my wife was pregnant she could barely manage her back pain -with- the recline, never mind without. The recline button is there for your use. You are welcome to avail of it yourself.

> Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant Same flight with someone's seat resting on your knees is downright painful. > when my wife was pregnant Imagine if she was a bit taller and someone reclined the seat all the way over her. > The recline button is there for your use You're right, like any shared resource, "space" is there for you to use. It doesn't mean you have to use it, you could try to b…

So why is the recline button there?

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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post #171

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Airlines shouldn't have reclining seats, it's bad design. Blaming people for the bad design is stupid. I never recline and still blame it on the design. Stupid people exist, you should design for that.

Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant… Not to mention that when my wife was pregnant she could barely manage her back pain -with- the recline, never mind without. The recline button is there for your use. You are welcome to avail of it yourself.

> You are welcome to avail of it yourself.

Ah, the exact opposite of the "pay it forward" principle...

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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> Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant Same flight with someone's seat resting on your knees is downright painful. > when my wife was pregnant Imagine if she was a bit taller and someone reclined the seat all the way over her. > The recline button is there for your use You're right, like any shared resource, "space" is there for you to use. It doesn't mean you have to use it, you could try to b…

So why is the recline button there?

Mainly because they were introduced when the seats were set farther apart. Now companies squeeze more rows and keep the same seats.

But also because with any shared resource there's an expectation of decency involved. Some people just betray that expectation. They're the ones with the mentality that "they shouldn't have served alcohol if they didn't want me to get insufferably drunk", "they shouldn't have put the candy out if they didn't want me to take all of it", "why is the swing there in the park if not for my kids to use them continuously to the disappointment of other kids".

When your wife was pregnant someone probably let her go ahead in a queue, have her some priority for something, etc. That was a person with common sense and decency, not asking "why do queues exist", who doesn't do something only if there's a law about it.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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In short: it plays far too well (~2500 ELO.) People think it originally played at a reasonable level and accidentally got more powerful as the seatback computers got more powerful; the same thing happened to the Mac chess app with the release of the M1.

Eh, no. A single Core Duo would be enough to challenge most masters with GNUChess or StockFish, no Apple fanboyism it's needed. Heck; even Nanochess was rough for a novice like me, and that on an n270 CPU.

The idea is that there is a time limit for each move, and that the faster processors can do more work in the same time and thus have higher elo.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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post #213

In short: it plays far too well (~2500 ELO.) People think it originally played at a reasonable level and accidentally got more powerful as the seatback computers got more powerful; the same thing happened to the Mac chess app with the release of the M1.

Eh, no. A single Core Duo would be enough to challenge most masters with GNUChess or StockFish, no Apple fanboyism it's needed. Heck; even Nanochess was rough for a novice like me, and that on an n270 CPU.

I think the issue is that people limited compute time as a proxy for difficulty.

In that case you'll hit issues on any device that performs significantly differently from that which it was tuned in.

Though I am slightly amused by people using the apple chip as an example of "high performance" in a problem that scales very well with threading.

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