They stole books, audio, image and tried to settle discussions with threats and closed party negotiations when they are caught.
What people expect from them?
Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
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Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
#222Have any of these sorts of proclamations ever actually come true? I recall when Reddit effectively cut off all the clients from their API, there were similar loud proclamations that they had ruined their business and everyone would defect. I remember something similar with Twitter. These businesses both have their problems, but blocking third-party apps doesn’t seem to be one of them. I think Anthropic took a look at…
The Hoi polloi were never going to leave Reddit.
But there are specific subreddits and communities who did, /r/linux and related being the biggest ones, who moved to Lemmy.
As for Twitter blocking the API, they just killed all of the fun bots people made (two of mine) - the actual goverment propaganda troll-bots never went away, they just paid the $10 for the checkmark to get top of everyone's replies and kept running as-is.
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#223It seems that Anthropic's thesis is that vertical integration wins. It's too soon to tell if that's true or not. One of the features of vertical integration is that there will be folks complaining about it. Like the way folks would complain that it's impossible or hard to install macOS on anything other than a Mac, and impossible or hard to install anything other than macOS on a Mac. Yet, despite those complains, the…
The models are pretty much the same, the differentiation for the last few months have purely been in the tooling and harness around the models.
As it will continue to be. Unless we get a Opus-5 or GPT-6 that blows everything out of the water, all major progress will be in the UX/DX of the tools and what tools each harness will let the agent use and how.
For now Claude is the best at this, MS is trying to keep up with Copilot in VSCode and Codex ... exists.
Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
#224Anthropic doesn’t want you to use a tool that makes it easy to switch to a competitor’s model when you reach a cap. They want to nudge you toward upgrading - Pro -> Max -> Max 20× -> extra usage - rather than switching to Codex. They can afford to make moves like this as long as they stay on top. OpenAI isn’t the good guy here - it’s just an opportunity for them to bite off a bit more of the cake.
Why would I "switch" when I can pay the $20 for both? More than enough for any personal projects I have time for.
And if I was making any money, the Max tiers would be pennies in the bucket.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
3rd party reddit clients used the official api. They changed it from free to paid.
This is true, Twitter and Reddit clients were using official APIs that got their price increased. The point still stands though, don't build a service dependent on another service and especially if you're using an unofficial API. It works if you're under the radar but Opencode is not anymore. Honestly, it seems like this played out in Opencode's favor. They are getting press for this and people who are used to Openco…
The Reddit API price was completely bonkers, a power-user would have had to pay tens of dollars a month for it.
Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
#226Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anthropic thinking they're Reddit ~2023 feels pretty arrogant. And if they've made a business decision to do this, rolling it out without announcement is even worse. Did they think no one would notice?
Anthropic has like 4x Reddit’s revenue and 8x the valuation. I don’t understand the arrogance. Plus I’m the one who compared them to Reddit. They certainly didn’t issue a statement that said “well it worked for Reddit”.
Reddit had a first move and scale advantage by then that Anthropic could only dream of.
Plus its product utility scaled with user count.
To the upthread/sibling conversations about substitutability of LLMs (and therefore pricing power).
Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
#228Not unexpected. - Google cutting off using search from other than their home page code. (At one time there was an official SOAP API for Google Search.) - Apple cutting off non-Apple hardware in the Power PC era. ("We lost our license for speeding", from a third party seller of faster hardware.) - Twitter cutting off external clients. (The end of TweetDeck.)
- Reddit cutting off API access for third party clients
They didn't "cut off", they just set completely bonkers prices for API use making it effectively unaffordable.
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#229Does/will this include blocking Github Copilot from using their models?
They use the API directly.
Opencode was spoofing itself as the official Claude Code CLI to get access to the subscription tier.
Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients
#230I forgot what Malcolm Gladwell called them but I imagine the small minority of users affected here have disproportionate influence over their peers.
Power users?
Any such users in the thread? I used third-party clients for a little while but I did not see the benefit.
(I was more likely to do the opposite, and run Claude Code with a proxy which allows me to use it with other models. Though after much experimentation I ended up back on Claude.)