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Re: Xfce is great

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Post by cdaringe »

Daunk wrote: post #83

I've been using XFCE for a long time now. I often give GNOME and KDE Plasma a try, but I have to tweak GNOME so much to make it usable, and KDE Plasma keeps crashing and has weird issues (Steam friends list being delayed for example), which just got worse when they switched to Wayland. I really do feel like XFCE on x11 is the logical choice, it "just works" and every app runs well (Discord has broken hotkeys on Wayla…

I love and use xfce, but it “just works” for me only ~98%. Window snapping dimensions are oft still wrong, i get visual artifacts sometimes , etc. minor issues. With gnome i may not love everything about it, but i change nothing and it does “just work” closer to 99.9+%

Seems like YMMV

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Post by hulitu »

andrewflnr wrote: post #2

If anyone is actually switching to Linux in the current hype cycle, I'd very much recommend starting with XFCE if you can. In my experience it really does seem to be the lowest-BS desktop out there, like the good parts of Windows XP.

> I'd very much recommend starting with XFCE

Kids those days. twm or fvwm shall be ok.

Re: Xfce is great

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Post by hulitu »

nice_byte wrote: post #20

Yeah, xfce is as close to an ideal desktop experience on Linux as it gets. A competent desktop environment really doesn't need that much. Post-2010ish Gnome and kde are like some sort of sick joke. The fact that there are people who actually contribute their precious free time to these, feels to me profoundly sad.

> Yeah, xfce is as close to an ideal desktop experience on Linux as it gets.

fvwm is better

Re: Xfce is great

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Post by hulitu »

teiferer wrote: post #50
Fiveplus wrote: post #11

While I appreciate the author's enthusiasm for the traditional desktop metaphor, this analysis conflates interface familiarity with architectural efficiency . It is a pleasant sentiment please don't get me wrong but technically a bit short sighted. The author praises xfce's modularity and unix-like separation of components (xfwm4, xfce4-panel, xfdesktop), failing to realize that this design pattern is actually a perf…

I understand what you are saying about efficiency in theory . Though I must say, 20 years ago, I used X based desktop environments on hardware at the time and they were blazingly fast. Today's Gnome doesn't even come close. How can that be, if they were so ineffcient?

> Today's Gnome doesn't even come close. How can that be, if they were so ineffcient?

We call this evolution.

Re: Xfce is great

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Post by [deleted] »

snoopen wrote: post #168
laxis96 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely wondering why everybody hates modern GNOME. I have long been running Linux on headless systems but Windows on my daily, and only recently switched to dailying a Linux desktop. I started with Kubuntu LTS, it was easy to switch from Windows (shortcuts, UX) but it felt too "complicated" and distracting, not very good looking OOTB and had some graphical glitches here and there (w/ nvidia). Now I'm on Fedora…

I like GNOME for the most part. But I really dislike needing an extension to change the date away from US format. Extensions in general seem unstable. Every now and then GNOME just locks up and I have to kill it from a terminal session to avoid losing my work.

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Re: Xfce is great

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Post by nice_byte »

hulitu wrote: post #224
nice_byte wrote: post #20

Yeah, xfce is as close to an ideal desktop experience on Linux as it gets. A competent desktop environment really doesn't need that much. Post-2010ish Gnome and kde are like some sort of sick joke. The fact that there are people who actually contribute their precious free time to these, feels to me profoundly sad.

> Yeah, xfce is as close to an ideal desktop experience on Linux as it gets. fvwm is better

nice joke

Re: Xfce is great

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Post by liampulles »

davidgerard wrote: post #129
liampulles wrote: post #108

I'm a longtime fan of XFCE. I try all sorts of DEs from time to time on spare computers, but I reliably come back to XFCE, which is really just a fairly low-resource, stable embodiment of the classic GNOME feel. I used mainline Ubuntu for a few years until they released GNOME 3 (which I hated then and hate now) and then I switched to Xubuntu and was happy again. I made a conscious decision a few years ago (after tryi…

they're actively working on Wayland and very much want it to work well there? https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap One problem is I think Xfce has no paid developers, it's all spare time.

Quote from your link:

"It is not clear yet which Xfce release will target a complete Xfce Wayland transition (or if such a transition will happen at all)."

Re: Xfce is great

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Post by liampulles »

laxis96 wrote: post #166
liampulles wrote: post #108

I'm a longtime fan of XFCE. I try all sorts of DEs from time to time on spare computers, but I reliably come back to XFCE, which is really just a fairly low-resource, stable embodiment of the classic GNOME feel. I used mainline Ubuntu for a few years until they released GNOME 3 (which I hated then and hate now) and then I switched to Xubuntu and was happy again. I made a conscious decision a few years ago (after tryi…

I'm genuinely wondering why everybody hates modern GNOME. I have long been running Linux on headless systems but Windows on my daily, and only recently switched to dailying a Linux desktop. I started with Kubuntu LTS, it was easy to switch from Windows (shortcuts, UX) but it felt too "complicated" and distracting, not very good looking OOTB and had some graphical glitches here and there (w/ nvidia). Now I'm on Fedora…

It probably depends on how far back one started using Linux on desktop. For me that was a while ago.

Re: Xfce is great

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Post by tsoukase »

When I read about the awesomeness of Wayland I become tempted to try it. Then I remember I am immersed in Xfce4 which I can never leave and I forget it. Really, Wayland Vs Xfce is the current war of DEs.
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