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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by marcosdumay »

dataflow wrote: post #121
marcosdumay wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point when they will be all silently re-enabled by the update application?

I mean, the point is to make it usable. You can set up scheduled tasks where needed. I haven't had to re-disable stuff after that, but I've jumped through a lot more initial hoops than most people are willing to.

I tried this when Win 7 was new, and it worked great. Then I tried it when Win 10 was new, and it was a complete useless waste of time. In a week it was too slow to use again.

I still haven't used Windows since Win 10 support ended, and have no idea how bad Windows 11 is for people to declare Win 10 "super fast" all over the internet. But I don't have any hope it will accept any setup I want. Win 10 already didn't.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by pjmlp »

steve1977 wrote: post #101
schmuckonwheels wrote: post #87

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>including the framework schizophrenia, as Microsoft shifted between Win32, UWP, WPF Ah yes, and the solution being presented is Linux, with Xlib, Motif, Qt, GTK, and your choice of 167 different desktop environments. Don't forget the whole Wayland schism. Mac is no better, shifting SDKs every few years, except Apple goes one step further by breaking all legacy applications so you are forced to upgrade. Can't be schi…

macOS has Cocoa since 2000, which is still useable, and SwiftUI since a few years. No comparison to the mess of UI toolkits on Windows.

I suggest paying attention to some mac development podcasts.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by halapro »

Aldipower wrote: post #212
halapro wrote: post #141

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Vista was not bad, it's just that you tried running it on a 128MB computer from 2002. Vista was fantastic on so many levels but people were just not ready for it. People mocked Vista's permission prompts, something that every OS has now. That alone should tell you how misplaced your hate is.

I ran it on an 2005 computer in 2005. And I remember it was very slow. Win7 was good then, 3 years later.

Incredible you could run it in 2005 since it was released in late 2006. I ran windows vista beta that summer on my new 2GB computer, it was a great OS in my view.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by chaostheory »

Everyone has forgotten how unstable and insecure Windows was back then when it was “fast”. It was also fast to blue screen, freeze, and spread malware. IMO it’s much better now. If you don’t like it, then there are good viable alternatives today especially since everything is web based.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

doodlesdev wrote: post #47
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

Why would you go for a random Linux distribution backed by DHH (a Ruby developer) instead of a established upstream distribution such as Debian or Fedora?

Because of hyprland. There aren't many alternatives with hyprland (or niri) preconfigured for you

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by hulitu »

api wrote: post #99
secondcoming wrote: post #97

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That makes little sense, notepad.exe already exists. The only development required on it would be to add AI shit to it. They could just leave it alone.

That means you have to work on the original code, and modern entry-mid level devs can't do that. It's probably in C++. Your expensive senior and staff level devs are on more important projects. Make it a web app and your cheap entry level grads can do it.

> That means you have to work on the original code, and modern entry-mid level devs can't do that. It's probably in C++.

As far as I remember, Notepad was the reference implementation for a Microsoft widget. Nothing more. If "modern entry-mid level devs can't do that" you really have a much bigger problem.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by spikej »

blibble wrote: post #70
Flux159 wrote: post #15

"What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_and_Bill%27s_law On a more serious note, I really only use Windows for games & I'm still always frustrated with how many updates (& restarts during updates) Windows needs. My fans are always constantly spinning on Windows too (laptop or desktop) whereas my Mac & Linux machines are generally silent outside of heavy load.

> My fans are always constantly spinning on Windows too (laptop or desktop) whereas my Mac & Linux machines are generally silent outside of heavy load. defender seemingly needs to check every 10ms that you still don't have a virus

Cannot even reliably permanently disable real time scanning...

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by HPsquared »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #199
HPsquared wrote: post #175

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But does any junior want to learn C++ Win32? You want to learn something that leads to a long-term career development path, not a sunsetting technology.

For money, anything is possible. That’s the employment contract, trade money for time doing things you would rather not.

Indeed but if the pay needs to be high, you may as well pay someone experienced.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by aeon_ai »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #173
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

If you want an OS to simply do stuff Linux is now clearly superior. However, I found Omarchy to be whatever the opposite of a sweet spot is. It brings all the complications of a tiling WM, so you still have to learn a complicated new way of using your system, but at the same time it is extremely opinionated so instead of ending with a tailored custom tiling WM that suits your needs at the end of the learning curve, y…

To each their own.

I find Omarchy to simply "make sense" out of the box for me. And, I've never used a tiling WM before it (and feel crazy for not having done so)

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by ok123456 »

water-data-dude wrote: post #76
epolanski wrote: post #23

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What propaganda? I only get a new background with some info related to it (like what's the place of the picture).

Regrettably, I have to use a windows machine for work. The other day I got one where the "fact" was an offer to help me pic out the right laptop or tablet to get the most out of copilot. To stoke my rage into an incandescent fury, if you go to settings -> Lock Screen, there's no obvious way to disable it at first. You have to change the background image from "Microsoft Spotlight", the one where the image changes to a…

Back when people customized screensavers, you would put the .scr file (a regular exe) in the Windows directory, and it would populate the list of screen savers? I'm guessing that's no longer a thing in the name of security theater.
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