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Re: Sabotaging Bitcoin

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Post by Zaskoda » Wed, Jan 07, 2026, 2:05 AM UTC

bb88 wrote: post #216

Zaskoda wrote: post #215

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Might I point out this instance of Elon's company using gas powered generators to boost power at their data center: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/apr/24/elon-musk... We have no idea what's happening in private data centers around the world.

Again shenanigans. This is an arguing technique from the bitcoin maximalists who would proclaim something to be false when a google search would show otherwise. You've drank some kind of kool-aid. You've been gaslit. Don't do it to the rest of us. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=65564#

Oh I've been a decentralist long before anyone coined the term "Bitcoin Maximalist". I've been watching haters whine and complain the whole time. Speaking of google searches, you could have easily looked up the use of hyrdro power yourself and found that it's a common practice.

Speaking of, I just did a Google search asking if we know how much power AI is using and this was the AI response: "It is difficult to determine the exact amount of power AI is using because most leading AI companies do not disclose specific data"

It doesn't matter how much you hate Bitcoin, it's here and it's not going away. You should probably get over it.

Re: Sabotaging Bitcoin

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Post by npoc » Wed, Jan 07, 2026, 8:51 PM UTC

logicchains wrote: post #91

nradov wrote: post #86

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Property rights are enforced with guns.

That's why Monero is superior; no amount of guns is going to help somebody steal property that they don't know you have.

Shame about it's tail emission and poor supply audit-ability

Re: Sabotaging Bitcoin

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Post by npoc » Wed, Jan 07, 2026, 8:52 PM UTC

gorbachev wrote: post #156

beenBoutIT wrote: post #147

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The good that BTC will do in the long run is worth the investment. Civilization getting out from under fiat currencies - once and for all - is a massive step in the right direction.

I'm curious as to what's your time horizon for "in the long run". When is this transition to bitcoin going to happen?

decades

Re: Sabotaging Bitcoin

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Post by npoc » Wed, Jan 07, 2026, 8:54 PM UTC

oofbey wrote: post #69

kfrzcode wrote: post #10

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Meanwhile, Hedera remains carbon negative and 7 orders of magnitude more efficient than Bitcoin. "Today, Hedera is performing the equivalent of over 10,000,000 transactions and 788,000 transactions for the same amount of energy it takes Bitcoin and Ethereum to process 1, respectively." [0]: https://hedera.com/blog/going-carbon-negative-at-hedera-hash... [1]: https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10160701/

Everything is orders of magnitude more efficient than bitcoin.

No money is more efficient than bitcoin.