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Post by __alexs »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #211
vunderba wrote: post #102

Okay results are in for GenAI Showdown with the new gpt-image 1.5 model for the editing portions of the site! https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing Conclusions - OpenAI has always had some of the strongest prompt understanding alongside the weakest image fidelity. This update goes some way towards addressing this weakness. - It's leagues better at making localized edits without altering the entire image's ae…

"Remove all the trash from the street and sidewalk. Replace the sleeping person on the ground with a green street bench. Change the parking meter into a planted tree." What a prompt and image.

Looking forward to the first AR glasses to include live editing of the world like this.

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Post by nycdatasci »

encroach wrote: post #185
nycdatasci wrote: post #183

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The arena concept doesn’t work for image models due to watermarks.

There are no watermarks in the arena.

There are no visible watermarks, but model makers can use steganographic codes to identify outputs from their own models.

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Post by realharo »

rafram wrote: post #108
margorczynski wrote: post #92

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We are probably entering the post-copyright era. The law will follow sooner or later.

That seems unlikely to me. One side is made up of lots and lots of entrenched interests with sympathetic figures like authors and artists on their side, and the other is “big tech,” dominated by the rather unsympathetic OpenAI and Google.

The other side however has the "if you restrict us, China will win" argument on their side.

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Post by vintermann »

concats wrote: post #212
echelon wrote: post #141

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> Somehow it feels like we’re moving backwards. I don't understand why everyone isn't in awe of this. This is legitimately magical technology. We've had 60+ years of being able to express our ideas with keyboards. Steve Jobs' "bicycle of the mind". But in all this time we've had a really tough time of visually expressing ourselves. Only highly trained people can use Blender, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. whereas almos…

“I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the n…

Is that how it works this time, though?

* I'm into genealogy. Naturally, most of my fellow genealogists are retired, often many years ago, though probably also above average in mental acuity and tech-savviness for their age. They LOVE generative AI.

* My nieces, and my cousin's kids of the same age, are deeply into visual art. Especially animation, and cutesy Pokemon-like stuff. They take it very seriously. They absolutely DON'T like AI art.

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Post by ineedasername »

swyx wrote: post #196
minimaxir wrote: post #13

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My pet theory is that OpenAI screwed up the image normalization calculation and was stuck with the mistake since that's something that can't be worked around. At the least, it's not present in these new images.

wdym it cant be worked around when there exist literal yellow tint corrector models/tools haha

Yeah, though I can imagine a conversation like this:

SWE: "Seriously? import PIL \ read file \ == (c + 10%, m = m, y = y, k = k) \ save file done!"

Exec: "Yeah, and first blogger get's a hold of image #1 they generate, starts saying 'Hey! This thing's been color corrected w/o AI! lol lame'"

Or not, no idea. i've not understood the choice either, besides very intelligent AI-driven auto-touch up for lighting/color correction has been a thing for a while. It's just, for those I end up finding an answer for, maybe 25% of head scratcher decisions do end of having a reasonable, if non intuitive answer for. Here? haven't been able to figure one yet though, or find a reason/mention by someone who appears to have an inside line on it.

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Post by arnz-arnz »

zkmon wrote: post #198
arnz-arnz wrote: post #190

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all I can hope for is that a new industry or reliable ecosystem of vetters of real human talent will emerge. Are you really as good a writer as you claim to be? Show us the badge. That or AI firms have to be forced to 'watermark' all their creative outputs, and anyone misleading the public/audience should be punishable by law.

Both are just mid-summer dreams. There is no global law to enforce watermark. There are no badges that can't be forged.

There isn't but that doesn't mean there won't be. It can even go as far as banning certain features. There isn't just hope with the kind of politics we have right now.

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Post by vintermann »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #78
nobody_r_knows wrote: post #53

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my question to your anecdotal: who cares? not being fecicious, but who cares if someone reproduced your stuff and millions of people see your stuff? is the money that you want? is it the fame? because fame you will get, maybe not money... but couldn't there be another way?

As a professional cinematographer/photographer I am incredibly uncomfortable with people using my art without my permission for unknown ends. Doubly so when it’s venture backed private companies stealing from millions of people like me as they make vague promises about the capabilities of their software trained on my work. It doesn’t take much to understand why that makes me uncomfortable and why I feel I am entitled…

> How do you feel about entities taking your face off of your personal website and plastering it on billboards smiling happily next to their product?

That would be misrepresentation. Even Stallman isn't OK with that. You can take one of his opinion pieces and publish it as your own. Or you can attach his name to it.

However, if you're editing it and releasing it under his name, clearly you're simply lying, and nobody is OK with that. People have the right to be recognized as authors of things they did author (if they so desire) and they have a right to NOT be associated with things they didn't.

> At the end of the day it’s very gross when we are exploited without our knowledge or permission so rich groups can get richer.

The second part is the entirety of the problem. If I'm "exploited" in a way where I can't even notice it, and I'm not worse off for it, how is it even exploitation? But people amassing great power is a problem no matter if they do it with "legitimate" means or not.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

ares623 wrote: post #133
Forgeties79 wrote: post #101

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Good luck getting it developed unfortunately. I have to ship it off now, there isn’t a single local spot in my city that will develop anymore

When the demand is back, the labs should start coming back. There's a few in my relatively small city which is pretty surprising. But the costs are still too high to cover the low volume I guess.

The big issue is chemical disposal IIRC (which yes is a cost just being more specific)
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