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Re: US Tech Force

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Post by exceptione »

azemetre wrote: post #11
1986 wrote: post #3

So they gutted and destroyed USDS in order to... Create it again?

This looks like a way to force a few key players to gobble up all the federal dollars by forcing many executive controlled agencies to be force fed these LLM solutions because these same key players cannot sell their wares to the public so they need to steal public money, once again.

Jup, the official term is Elite Capture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_capture

The difficulty for any party to want to govern after this is... there is no government. It is all oligarch captured, the candidates are oligarch sponsored, and don't count on the media to sound the siren because, well, you know why.

This is a plane that is never gonna fly again. The only way is to build a new plane, as impossible as that might sound.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by mixmastamyk »

lubujackson wrote: post #162

> Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists Baking in the ageism right from the start. Few want to work for this government, but at least they can keep those unsavory 30+ year olds out!

Last Day, Capricorn 25s, this is Carousel…

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by ipython »

sheepscreek wrote: post #218
ethbr1 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing like putting in a multi decade civil service career and coming in one day to find a 20-something installed over you whose primary qualification was being hired at a "friendly" tech company and making the right kind of joke around the CEO. ... although that seems depressingly like it would also be the experience with new administrators being installed in executive agencies every 4 years, except they're slightl…

Not being dismissive of your experience (or that of a civil servant with 10s of years of experience). I have a deep respect for that kind of work and folks who give up more lucrative opportunities in order to serve their country and fellow citizens. > whose primary qualification was being hired at a "friendly" tech company and making the right kind of joke around the CEO That’s being awfully dismissive of the individ…

For DOGE specifically? Would be interested to hear of those DOGE employees who truly deserved to be GS-15s due to their extensive experience in both tech and government.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by ipython »

voidfunc wrote: post #144
jotux wrote: post #58

>What is the expected compensation for participants? Compensation varies based on experience level and agency placement. Annual salaries are expected to be in the approximate range of $150,000 to $200,000. Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards. >Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists So "early-career" but they're going to…

If I was late-career with a good solid financial foundation im place and just looking to work to cover living expenses the Federal Gov as fucked as it may be doesn't seem like a bad gig. Since the bar is so incredibly fucking low you just mail it in and collect the money and when youre furloughed you play golf or do extra hobbies. The ball just needs to keep moving, it doesn't actually need to move quickly. Heck it d…

There are way more people calling it in at large orgs or FAANGs. Clearly you've never worked in a civil service position given your foolish caricature of one.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by ipython »

amarcheschi wrote: post #34
ulrashida wrote: post #15

Figures this comes from the National Design Studio ( https://ndstudio.gov/ ) which ironically also ignores the government's own advice on web standards and correct use of identifying headers. One can assume the US Tech Force will perceive itself as also unfettered by those silly rules and good practices.

Click on America by design initiative "What's the biggest brand in the world? If you said Trump, you're not wrong. But what's the foundation of that brand? One that's more globally recognized than practically anything else. ... This is President Trump going bigger than President Nixon" Jesus christ, man

:( I had to click through because I didn't believe you at first... as someone who used to proudly work with feds, this yet another low point in many over the past ten years.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by starkparker »

justin66 wrote: post #13

What companies are participating in Tech Force? The initial roster of private sector partners includes Adobe, Amazon Web Services, AMD, Anduril, Apple, Box, C3.ai, Coinbase, Databricks, Dell Technologies, Docusign, Google Public Sector, IBM, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, OpenAI, Oracle, Palantir, Salesforce, SAP, ServiceNow, Snowflake, Robinhood, Uber, Workday, xAI, and Zoom. This list will expand over time. Are there any…

Interesting to see AMD on there and not Intel.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #203
ivanech wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the new grad DOGE employees were GS-15s. So yes, it seems likely that they plan to hire at GS-14 or GS-15.

It still takes around 5-15 years to get to the upper end of the pay scale, currently $195K.

Not true

I was hired in under HQE accession in 2019 and made SES 4 equivalent with zero civilian time in service.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by Larrikin »

redbluered wrote: post #181
ActorNightly wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and no. I have hired people to work under me. Generally, if someone can pass the interview and do the job, I don't care that much about your views unless you are very outwardly with them. The only time I had to filter out a candidate was due to a quick check of his public social media where he was "enthusiastically" pro Palestine with questionable posts. That being said, having interviewed plenty of ex government…

> The only time I had to filter out a candidate was due to a quick check of his public social media where he was "enthusiastically" pro Palestine with questionable posts. Sounds like a place I wouldn't want to work (and filtering for the reverse stance would be equally problematic). Do you think things will work better if we have pro-Israel and pro-Palestine companies with the two groups never talking?

You're assuming everyone is one side or the other and there aren't people who think both sides are awful and they love making their problems with each other the world's problems.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by mixmastamyk »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #228
mixmastamyk wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still takes around 5-15 years to get to the upper end of the pay scale, currently $195K.

Not true I was hired in under HQE accession in 2019 and made SES 4 equivalent with zero civilian time in service.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-admi...

Doesn't sound like you're talking about General Schedule.

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