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Framework Raises DDR5 Memory Prices by 50% for DIY Laptops

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Post by Auracle »

wtallis wrote: post #107
embedding-shape wrote: post #44

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I think maybe long-term the effect of Korean companies no longer daring to reuse old machines to produce DDR4 because of US retribution is the bigger cause of that.

Repeating this weird claim won't make it true. DDR4 isn't going to come back into fashion, even during a DRAM shortage. Demand for DDR4 can't increase meaningfully when no current-generation processors can use it, and older-generation processors aren't seeing any increase in production or sales. DDR4 is not a substitute good for the RAM that's in short supply.

That said, I wonder if anyone is thinking about bringing back the RAM disk. I have 64GB of DDR4 just sitting here and would love to page to that instead of my SSDs.

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Post by the_real_cher »

lovich wrote: post #199
pmdr wrote: post #145

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This is a dystopia no one really thought about. A handful of people anointed to spend borrowed money on a (so far unprofitable) quest to destabilize the world's economy, alienate the working class and make everything we've enjoyed the past 15-20 years a luxury.

No? Lots of philosophers and writers thought about the problems that happen when capital concentrates to the level that individuals can move nations. It’s like a whole fucking genre. What we call capitalism now is just reverting back to monarchism where the handful of rulers decide everything and we stop getting the market to be responsive to reality. Prepare for more absurd and random shortages as our betters play a…

Yeah weve gone so far past markets at this point

Companies that are essentially monopolies have greater income than most countries GDP, with government bailouts, with the Federal reserve printing money like crazy, the interest on government debt is greater than military spending.

This is monarchy wearing the skin of capitalism.

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Post by g947o »

cyanydeez wrote: post #64
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #45

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Yes. AI companies will continue to buy up all the RAM so you and I have to pay the cost for it. They will also eat up all the energy so you and I have to pay more for energy. They will also then try and put you and I out of a job. And if they fail to do so, they will then get your and my tax dollars to bail them out. There should be real AI research and technology development, but the way it’s being done right now is…

Lets be honest: Most peoples computing needs have been satisfied in the last decade. FOMO and Number goes up is the primary issue both with AI and most compute today. There's so many made up numbers these days that does zero productive work, like FPS, refresh rates, 4k, 8k, 16k. Bloat is everywhere.

When the battery in my current laptop dies and I need to get a new one, none of that matters.

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Post by ralphc »

m00x wrote: post #97
stackskipton wrote: post #73

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Yes? Reports are that OpenAI is buying unfinished memory kits which they have no capacity to complete. It appears that OpenAI is just buying them to remove them from the market and damage their competitors. In United States, that used to be considered against the law if we were actually enforcing such things.

Since COVID, this has been the norm for any industry that requires chips. Operation handbook now dictates that you should have 3-4 years of all the ICs you'll need for production so you don't end up like the car manufacturers.

The reason my 2018 Chevrolet has HDR radio and my wife's 2024 doesn't.

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Post by eikenberry »

esseph wrote: post #181
eikenberry wrote: post #82

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What is this estimation based on? I'd think once the bubble pops pricing would start to return to normal levels and the general consensus seems to think the bubble won't last that long.

"once the bubble pops" people probably won't be interested in buying RAM. If you would have asked me 5 years ago this wouldn't even become a bubble. I'm still amazed it did. It really taught me how much of the modern economy is just grift.

Who are '"once the bubble pops" people'?

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Post by wpm »

rowanG077 wrote: post #220
dijit wrote: post #218

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perhaps the most hackernews take in this thread. desalination isn’t just expensive, it’s existentially costly in terms of energy consumption, and I don’t see any dyson spheres in production.

With modern desalination facilities it costs literally on the order of cents per liter. It's an inconvenience at worst in the modern world. It costs approx 3kwh of energy to desalinate one cubic meter of water.

What do you do with all the brine?

Re: Framework Raises DDR5 Memory Prices by 50% for DIY Laptops

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Post by DrusTheAxe »

wpm wrote: post #227
rowanG077 wrote: post #220

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With modern desalination facilities it costs literally on the order of cents per liter. It's an inconvenience at worst in the modern world. It costs approx 3kwh of energy to desalinate one cubic meter of water.

What do you do with all the brine?

Make statues paying homage to the godkings who brought this upon us
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