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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Others have pointed out the problems of trolls generating racist or otherwise controversial content using Disney characters and this being short-sighted by Disney, but I think this could just be another case of "no such thing as bad PR". People will undoubtedly generate reprehensible things using these characters, and I think that's exactly what Disney wants because it's an easy way to make their characters go viral.

Their characters are way past virality

They’re way past being relevant and that is the problem they are solving… getting mindshare again.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

> Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate.... Elsagate shows the level of effort that people are willing to put into this (a strange combination of laziness, but extreme effort poured into enabling that laziness).

I still wonder what motivates the people behind that sort of thing. It'd be easy to understand if it were just porn, but what's been described to me is just... bizarre.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

I actually straight up don't think they give a shit anymore. I think decorum works in an environment where decorum is the norm, but we have entered a political moment where that is no longer the case. And I think that this kind of thing bleeds so heavily into culture that they no longer give a shit about having their characters next to it. They have enough plausible deniability; they did not create the content. I thi…

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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually straight up don't think they give a shit anymore. I think decorum works in an environment where decorum is the norm, but we have entered a political moment where that is no longer the case. And I think that this kind of thing bleeds so heavily into culture that they no longer give a shit about having their characters next to it. They have enough plausible deniability; they did not create the content. I thi…

Yeah, basically Disney invested a billion dollar in Pregnant Elsa Spider-Man Beach Castle .

They may be viewing this as an inevitable outcome with open models/fly-by-night providers/providers in more liberal copy-right jurisdictions.

They can either invest in mass classification and enforcement operations or gain some revenue share from it.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand that Disney might care about this, but I don't see why they should. What exactly does “fanart” (no matter how distasteful and controversial) change? Let people generate whatever fictional character they want.

It only works until Mickey Mouse shows up on your Tiktok feed lynching an African American and doing a sieg heil salute. Are you sure Disney wants that or would not care about that??

The question is why it shows up on your Tiktok feed.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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post #144

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

Sora has good enough controls it is basically impossible to make it do a dirty video like that.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney princesses "talking" to her.

I look forward to chatting with Pluto and Goofy and asking why one has to wear pants when both of them are dogs.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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post #112

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

Why is this a problem with Disney? Who cares? Online trolls make inappropriate videos with characters. Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it. It's so exhausting that companies are overly cautious about everything and let a tiny niche of internet culture drive these decisions. If you get obscene material in your social media feeds, you will continue to see this kind of stuff except maybe with some Disney IP. If n…

I agree with you completely but I'm absolutely shocked that Disney would agree to this. They are extremely protective of how their IP is used. Famously so.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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What mad world are we living in where Disney — Disney — is paying someone to lose control over its IP?

I think they're getting some equity in return for the investment. If it goes up, Disney makes out. If it doesn't, well, ...

Why not equity in exchange for rights? The crazy thing is they're surrendering both rights and cash.
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