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Post by ux266478 »

nebula8804 wrote: post #185
ux266478 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The touchscreen firmware's source is not distributed[1] for one, and neither is the firmware for the baseband processor. Possibly more aspects. Although "open" doesn't matter as much as "libre" does. Modifying source code is useless if you can't actually replace the running instance. It has all the same problems as closed source software. Baseband processors are legally required to be tivoized, thus the violation…

Darn well thats a damn shame. The phone compromises so much "nice to have" features to get to the supposed "privacy respecting" label. Its a shame they didn't actually go all the way. Seems like then all we really have in terms of communication devices is the BeTrusted platform (Precursor communication device)

The Precursor greatly interests me. Do you have personal experience with it?

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Post by dijit »

MBCook wrote: post #216
dijit wrote: post #94

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Apple definitely has the grunt I'm talking about to push the supply chain to change.

And Lenovo doesn’t?

If all thinkpads did the same thing, then maybe they would.

If it was the flagship laptop (t14s or x1 carbon) then, yeah.

Otherwise, no.

Lenovo is a smaller player by far than HP or Dell, and less focused than Microsoft or Apple (commanding lower prices on average also).

The most popular thinkpad is actually the E14, which is a budget notebook. Most finance departments can’t tell the difference and its usually developers getting the good hardware, so we have a warped perspective.

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Post by fumblertzu »

ttkari wrote: post #2

Hardware specs look pretty nice, SailfishOS should work nicely on this device. The design language remains faithful to the original Jolla Phone from more than a decade ago. :)

I love myself a good phone were I can tinker with the os like with my computers :)

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Post by fumblertzu »

everdrive wrote: post #133

Android and iOS need to be shaken up so badly that I welcome more or less anything into this space, no matter how flawed. That said, I think the chances I buy one of these is very low. At the moment, I keep a smart phone solely so that finding work is not difficult. You need quite the personal network to explain that "I don't have a smart phone." Otherwise, I'm trying to abstain from smart phone usage as much as poss…

What otp are you using? You can ask in the forum of sailfishos if it runs

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Post by t0bia_s »

mhitza wrote: post #18

47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.

Dimensions: ~158 x 74 x 9mm

It's way too big for me. Anything above 71mm width is unconfortable to hold in one hand or pocket.

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Post by mariusor »

0rzech wrote: post #203
szopin wrote: post #174

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It's in a different league as it's a linux phone first and foremost, not degoogled/hardened android, you get full root access as a checkbox in settings that will install terminal app for you to hack to your heart's content, user having root access is not an attack vector for them

I was not asking about having terminal and root access. I was asking about security-wise parity, for example memory protection, full "disk" encryption, permission model, application sandboxing etc. This is the main selling point of GrapheneOS. This and Android application compatibility, but Sailfish OS has its Android compatibility layer too.

Yes to full disk encryption, and yes to sandboxing.
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