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Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by r1290 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #164
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

Unifi is a bit different than Apple to me. Ubiquiti is one of the few companies doing prosumer hardware - and doing it extremely well. They give you access to advanced, raw configurations without necessarily having to go "full enterprise" deployment. They also have solutions for just about everything. That being said, I generally have moved towards other Wifi solutions as I've grown weary of tweaking Ubiquiti all of…

What do you recommend as an alternative?

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by 0x457 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #195
johncolanduoni wrote: post #36

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I’m sure it depends on the model, but in my experience if you force a 10G copper transceiver to 2.5G the insane heat generation goes away. I don’t have any Thunderbolt 10G adapters, but I’m kind of surprised they’re much larger. A SFP+ transceiver is the same size as a SFP one.

I think a major reason for the size is for heat dissipation, because it has to be prepared to handle the heat of a full 10G copper connection. Mine runs hot .

Most of my cables coming out of the aggregation switch are DAC and fiber, but there is no 10G copper because my PC came with 10G copper NIC integrated. Anyway, the difference in heat between this transceiver is shockingly large.

I knew it runs hot before I deployed it, but I wasn't aware that you have to wait for it to cooldown before unplugging, or you get burnt.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by jonah »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #164
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

Unifi is a bit different than Apple to me. Ubiquiti is one of the few companies doing prosumer hardware - and doing it extremely well. They give you access to advanced, raw configurations without necessarily having to go "full enterprise" deployment. They also have solutions for just about everything. That being said, I generally have moved towards other Wifi solutions as I've grown weary of tweaking Ubiquiti all of…

I was having issues with Wi-Fi stability but, once the settings were dialed incorrectly, it's been rock solid over a year.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by 0x457 »

u8080 wrote: post #39
tucnak wrote: post #26

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They said the same thing about 40G but hey, I've loved it for bridging the gap between my two (10G and 100G, respectively) Mikrotik switches. You can have a dozen Gigabit ports, as well as up to four true 10G devices on your aggregation switch, and neither would be bottlenecked by traffic to and from the backside. This has been a massive boon. However, when it comes to 2.5G, I struggle to find one good reason to use…

1x PCIE 3.0 has 8 Gbps raw speed - for 2.5Gbps duplex Ethernet you'll need 6~7 Gbps of raw link to CPU. For 5Gbps and higher, you'll need another PCIE line - and SOHO motherboards are usually already pretty tight on PCIE lanes. 10GbE will require 4x3.0 lanes

> 10GbE will require 4x3.0 lanes

3.0 PCIE is irrelevant today when it comes to devices you want on 10G. I'm pretty sure the real reason is that 2.5G can comfortably run on cable you used for 1G[1], while 10G get silly hot or requires transceiver and user understanding of a hundred 2-3 letter acronyms.

Combine it with IPS speeds lagging behind. 2.5G while feels odd to some, makes total sense on consumer market.

[1]: at short distances, I had replaced one run with shielded cable to get 2.5G, but it had POE, so it might contribute to noise?)

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by kidfiji »

QuiEgo wrote: post #215

I really want to want Unifi, but my experience with one of their products (UDM + mesh) was that it was a ton of effort to get something working that ended up being slower and more fiddly than a consumer focused router. When I get home, I don’t want to be an unpaid sysadmin

Check out Firewalla if your interest roots in tinkering :)

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by z3ratul163071 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #164
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

Unifi is a bit different than Apple to me. Ubiquiti is one of the few companies doing prosumer hardware - and doing it extremely well. They give you access to advanced, raw configurations without necessarily having to go "full enterprise" deployment. They also have solutions for just about everything. That being said, I generally have moved towards other Wifi solutions as I've grown weary of tweaking Ubiquiti all of…

Where they differ also from Apple, and indeed is insanely amazing for a network hw company is that I'm still getting software updates for my , I don't know, at least 7 years old AP. A consumer device.

This is unprecedented and much appreciated.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by exmadscientist »

hardolaf wrote: post #217
kllrnohj wrote: post #181

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Netgear 5 port managed switch: $30 https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/easy-smart/g... Ubiquiti 5 port managed switch: $30 https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-switching/products/u... Netgear 24 port managed switch: $260 (with a 1 year subscription included!) https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/smart-cloud/... Ubiquiti 24 port managed switch: $225 https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-swi…

The Ubiquiti 5 port switch is actually better than the Netgear one because it's POE powered whereas I don't think the Netgear one is.

I have developed a deep dislike for UI overall through the years due to their many missteps (see: most of this thread), but those little PoE-powered 2.5G switches are amazing and I am surprised that while 2.5G is getting more and more popular, no one has any real competition for this product. No matter, I bought three!

I do wish they were even smaller (I've got one location I'd like to mount one inside a wall box, which is admittedly pretty niche), and I am never again touching UI's configuration software (even 10 years later I feel that wound), but, yeah... love these little guys.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by jamiek88 »

alt227 wrote: post #196
kllrnohj wrote: post #186

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Why would you guess Chinese? Broadcom, Qualcomm, MediaTek, and Realtek are the typical answers for radio chips, no? None of whom are Chinese? There certainly are Chinese radio chips, such as from Espressif or Huawei, but they aren't especially popular in APs or anything

Most of those chips are made in TSMC or samsung foundries, the majority of which are currently in China or South Asia.

None of them are in china. They are in Taiwan and South Korea.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by Retric »

Analemma_ wrote: post #209
Retric wrote: post #205

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Construction projects, festivals, etc. Bad cellular reception is more likely to be an issue far from other infrastructure.

There are brands specifically for those markets though. Complaining about Ubiquiti not making a product for that specific use case feels like complaining about a Honda Civic not being an offroad-capable Jeep.

“The UniFi 5G Max lineup was created with a clear goal in mind: deliver a sleek, versatile, and exceptionally powerful 5G internet experience that works effortlessly in any environment.”

If it’s fine if you want to build a golf cart, just don’t pretend it’s an ATV.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by [deleted] »

alt227 wrote: post #196
kllrnohj wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you guess Chinese? Broadcom, Qualcomm, MediaTek, and Realtek are the typical answers for radio chips, no? None of whom are Chinese? There certainly are Chinese radio chips, such as from Espressif or Huawei, but they aren't especially popular in APs or anything

Most of those chips are made in TSMC or samsung foundries, the majority of which are currently in China or South Asia.

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