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Ghostty is now non-profit

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Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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I always found the fact that he named a company after himself to be pretty off-putting, personally Also, didn't said company piss people off in some way that led to Open Tofu being created?

Ferrari, McLaren, Pagani, Lamborghini, Tata, Honda, Toyota, Wal-Mart, Zuora (named after the two founders), Garmin (also named after the two founders).

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Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Using a copyleft license can add friction that reduces the amount of value your software can create in the world. I'd honestly rather Apple and Microsoft ripped off my work if it meant that my work provided more utility to a larger number of people.

I recently heard the argument that the license-friction of copyleft sometimes is actually a good thing. Think linux kernel that arguably is more successful than all the BSDs combined (citation needed)...

> Think linux kernel that arguably is more successful than all the BSDs combined (citation needed)

I don't think there is any citation needed. Linux powers all the cloud providers, 80% of the mobile market, a ton of random devices. At this point Linux is the most important OS on the planet, ahead of Windows and Apple OSes. It's just not as visible.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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I recently heard the argument that the license-friction of copyleft sometimes is actually a good thing. Think linux kernel that arguably is more successful than all the BSDs combined (citation needed)...

I'd be really interested in hearing more about that argument. I can take a guess with respect to Linux: that's the kind of software where forcing companies to submit code back to it is enormously beneficial due to the need for an operating system to have drivers for vast ranges of different hardware.

Yeah. Also things like filesystems. More generally, the history of BSD is full of proprietary forks that never got merged back in: Ultrix, SunOS, BSDI's BSD/386 (later BSD/OS), Winsock, and the Wollongong TCP/IP stack on UNICOS and, I think, also on VMS. The most famous fork is macOS Darwin, which I think is still in fact open source, but it's been many years since I saw someone successfully running the open-source Darwin.

Also, though, GCC got Objective-C support, and still has it, because the FSF told NeXT it would violate the GPL for them to attempt to make Objective-C a proprietary add-on to the GCC compiler, even if it wasn't literally linked with it. And a lot of GCC backends probably would have been kept proprietary by one or another hardware company if the license had allowed it.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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This highlights the value of having non-profits as a 501(c)(3). The transparency about Hack Club is refreshing. The Rust Foundation is a 501(c)(6) and not a 501(c)(3). The Rust Foundation would do better for the community if they were a 501(c)(3) and more transparent about finances. Follow this example for the greater good.

> The Rust Foundation is a 501(c)(6) and not a 501(c)(3). The Rust Foundation would do better for the community if they were a 501(c)(3) and more transparent about finances. Follow this example for the greater good.

This was exactly my issue with the Rust Foundation back in 2021 when it was formed, 501(c)(6) are for trade organisations. To this day, individuals still CANNOT donate to the Rust Foundation which means it is not community led.

> Note: At this time, the Rust Foundation [still] does not offer individual memberships.

https://rustfoundation.org/get-involved/#donations

The main issue of the Rust Foundation is that makes it easy for companies to buy influence in the project by buying a board seat as a benefit.

I agree that the Rust Foundation should change their governance structure to a 501(c)(3) instead of a 501(c)(6).

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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I always found the fact that he named a company after himself to be pretty off-putting, personally Also, didn't said company piss people off in some way that led to Open Tofu being created?

Ever heard of Debian or Linux?

Linux was named Freax by Linus, but other people didn't like it and started calling it Linux and it just stuck

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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I keep seeing Ghostty in the news, and I've tried it, but it feels like just another terminal emulator to men. This coming from someone who spends 90% of the workday in the terminal. Asking in good faith -- could someone tell me what's special about Ghostty compared to alternatives?

It's just better in every way than anything else I have ever tried (at least on a Mac). The author cares and it shows. BTW, I recently discovered shaders and cursor_blaze is absolutely awesome.

It would be helpful if you actually listed the ways and the else

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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> but a non-profit structure allows others to contribute financially without fear of misappropriation or misuse of funds (as protected by legal requirements and oversight from the fiscal sponsor).

None of the parenthesised provide any strong guarantees against these to alleviate such fears, are there not enough non-profits that misuse funds, say, on too high of an executive compensation instead of product development?

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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> but a non-profit structure allows others to contribute financially without fear of misappropriation or misuse of funds (as protected by legal requirements and oversight from the fiscal sponsor). None of the parenthesised provide any strong guarantees against these to alleviate such fears, are there not enough non-profits that misuse funds, say, on too high of an executive compensation instead of product development…

The fiscal sponsor (Hack Club) is a sponsor to many projects, and they presumably do keep an eye on the finances.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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It's just better in every way than anything else I have ever tried (at least on a Mac). The author cares and it shows. BTW, I recently discovered shaders and cursor_blaze is absolutely awesome.

It would be helpful if you actually listed the ways and the else

Yes, it would.
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