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Oil and gas suppliers have several products: gas, diesel, jet a, propane, naptha, asphalt etc.
Aren't the proportions is those essentially static?
Depends a lot on the oil field, geology is random
PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power. It used to be a general rule of thumb that you could build a computer of roughly equivalent power for the cost of a game console, or a little more — now the memory costs more than the whole console.
> I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power. The PS5 has 16GB of RAM. One can buy 16GB of RAM for ~$100 [1]. [1] https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9fgFf7/kingston-fury-beast-...
But that’s not apples to apples, a computer will generally need more ram to compete with a console.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not like you need 64GB to have "democratized computation". We used to have 64MB and that was plenty. Unfortunately, software got slower more quickly than hardware got quicker.
It is pretty important if you are doing things like 3d animation, video editing, or advanced CAD software. Plus software in general has ballooned its memory requirements and expectations. Even my 11 year old PC had to have a RAM upgrade a few years ago just because software updates suck up so much extra memory, and there is almost nothing consumers can do about it.
At any point in the the 1990s, it was generally unfathomable to be using an 11-year-old PC for any modern purpose.
That an 11-year-old PC can keep up today (with or without an upgrade) is evidence that systems are keeping up with software bloat just fine. :)
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#224Crypto: GPUs AI: RAM Thanks for taking away years of affordable computing from people. Time is more valuable; there's no getting it back.
I am skeptical of the narrative that crypto caused GPU demand to meaningfully increase. I think it was always AI
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#225I don't understand using a game console as a price comparison.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#226I don't understand using a game console as a price comparison.
Can't be using the standard banana measurement for everything.
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#227I don't understand using a game console as a price comparison.
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a sad trend for "the rest of us" and history in general. The economic boom of the 80's thru the 2010s has been a vast democratization of computation - hardware became more powerful and affordable, and algorithms (at least broadly if not individually) became more efficient. We all had supercomputers in our pockets. This AI movement seems to move things in the opposite direction, in that us plebeians have less and…
>We all had supercomputers in our pockets. You still do. There is no "AI movement" you need to participate in. You can grab a copy of SICP and a banged up ten year old thinkpad and compute away, your brain will thank you. It's like when people complain that culture is unaffordable because the newest Marvel movie tickets cost 50 bucks, go to the library or standardebooks.org, the entire Western canon is free
Living on the edge is expensive, and always has been.
Living on the edge from 4 years ago is basically free.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why would not the same apply advice to oil and gas contracts? Because oil & gas suppliers only ever sell one product, and memory fabs can dynamically switch product mix in response to supply & demand to optimize profits. The same sand, power and water can make DDR4, HBM or DDR5
Oil and gas suppliers have several products: gas, diesel, jet a, propane, naptha, asphalt etc.
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#230I just checked how much I paid around 12 months ago for Crucial 96GB kit (2x48GB ddr5 5600 so-dimm). Was $224, same kit today I see listed at $592, wild :/
Just bought that exact kit for my Minisforum 790S7 build at the eye watering $592... Kicking myself as I was just starting to contemplate it early Oct but not yet seriously looking