Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders • Hacker News Board

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by RobotToaster » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:54 AM UTC

jscyc wrote: post #195

ChicagoDave wrote: post #127

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

I opened my outlook android app today to find they'd replaced the archive button in the bottom toolbar with a "Summary by Copilot" one. It wasn't enough that the only colourful button is the Copilot one on the right. Thankfully they still let you reorder the buttons, so I moved archive back and hid that unwanted summary in the overflow menu.

Once your coworkers start using copilot to turn what should be a single sentence email into six paragraphs, you'll need that to summarise it into a sentence.

Progress!

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by pjmlp » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:54 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #192

pjmlp wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the option, I always favour Azure over AWS or GCP. AWS is a complexity maze, whereas GCP seems Google only does the minimum and one can only talk to bots.

You can pay for professional services. In Sweden the only one I ever got support with was Google, so it’s not a universal experience (I didn’t pay for professional services). I believe you and I have had this discussion before.

Yes, and I told you those professional services were nowhere to be found, while in AWS and Azure we actually got people on the phone, so do you want to have this discussion again?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by duskdozer » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:56 AM UTC

abracadaniel wrote: post #125

isodev wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You kind of missed the point of my comment but ok > not really the fault of AI model developers It’s their fault for pushing all this crap in all the things and misleading their investors that there is actually “intelligence” in what we now call AI. > grocery delivery apps are for These are not popular here and for a good reason - you need to enjoy your food and it starts by picking the right ingredients yourself. “s…

They always mess up a few things, make brain dead substitutions, or get low quality produce. I had bags show up smelling strongly of cigarettes. All for a premium price, an app that takes a surprising amount of time finding things on, and the complete loss of discoverability.

My experience with other shopping sites makes me suspect that with all the ads, tracking, captchas, etc bogging things down, it might be faster to just go to the store yourself.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by RobotToaster » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:56 AM UTC

ChicagoDave wrote: post #127

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

Never thought I'd miss Steve Ballmer

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by Neil44 » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:57 AM UTC

Springtime wrote: post #220

luke727 wrote: post #150

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> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.

And this W11 version of Notepad takes longer to open than Sublime Text and about equal to Firefox. On NVMe. It used to be instant , which is something you really notice the difference with when it changes.

The only reason I use Notepad is that it opens instantly. A fancy think with loads of features that's slow to open should be a new product.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by tetrisgm » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:58 AM UTC

I’d pay good money to disable that feature and keep my pc as is. Or I’ll have to swap to Steam OS

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by __m » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 7:59 AM UTC

Including 3 letter agents. You’d be insane to use Windows for anything business related (at least outside the US)

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by jack_tripper » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 8:00 AM UTC

RobotToaster wrote: post #224

ChicagoDave wrote: post #127

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

Never thought I'd miss Steve Ballmer

Windows under Steve Balmer: "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"

Windows under Satya Nadella: "Kindly provide your credit card and personal information sir"

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 8:00 AM UTC

ChicagoDave wrote: post #127

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

> OpenAI enabled its users to have a sext conversation.

Considering that this is only with verified adults, how is this "evil"? I find it more evil to treat full grown adult users as kids and heavily censor their use of LLMs.

(Not to detract from the rest of your post, with which I agree).

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by anticrymactic » Tue, Nov 18, 2025, 8:00 AM UTC

smallstepforman wrote: post #164

ronsor wrote: post #90

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> get groceries Isn't that what grocery delivery apps are for, if you really don't want to go to the store. > doing laundry, pairing socks etc … but solving any of that would require more than just bullshit LLM capabilities. Yes, it's a shame robotics (hardware) is harder than software, but that's not really the fault of AI model developers.

Actually, for Robotics hardware is a solved problem. Software is struggling to keep up.

> Actually, for Robotics hardware is a solved problem.

I understand the sentiment but this couldn't be further from the truth. There are no robotic hand models that get close to the fidelity of humans (or even other primates).

The technology just doesn't exist yet, motors are a terrible muscle replacement. Even completely without software, a puppeteered hand model would be revolutionary.