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One is Zig the other is Zigbee, I don't understand your comment...
https://stockshed.com/products/t3542-zig-2-4-ghz-wireless-me...
I think ZigBee uses Zig. It's an implementation.
Open-source Zig book
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Re: Open-source Zig book
#222> Learning Zig is not just about adding a language to your resume. It is about fundamentally changing how you think about software. I'm not sure what they expect, but to me Zig looks very much like C with a modern standard lib and slightly different syntax. This isn't groundbreaking, not a thought paradigm which should be that novel to most system engineers like for example OCaml could be. Stuff like this alienates p…
For those who actually want to learn languages which are "fundamentally changing how you think about software", I'd recommend the Lisp family and APL family.
And Prolog as well.
Re: Open-source Zig book
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't mean that the author might not use AI to optimise legibility. You can write stuff yourself and use an LLM to enhance the reading flow. Especially for non-native speakers it is immensely helpful to do so. Doesn't mean that the content is "AI-generated". The essence is still written by a human.
> Doesn't mean that the author might not use AI to optimise legibility. I agree that there is a difference between entirely LLM-generated, and LLM-reworded. But the statement is unequivocal to me: > The Zigbook intentionally contains no AI-generated content—it is hand-written If an LLM was used in any fashion, then this statement is simply a lie.
>If an LLM was used in any fashion, then this statement is simply a lie.
While I don't believe the article was created this way, it's possible to use an LLM purely as a classifier. E.g. prompt along the lines of "Does this paragraph contain any errors? Answer only yes or no." and generate only a single set of token probabilities, without any autoregression. Flag any paragraphs with sufficient probability of "yes" for human review.
Re: Open-source Zig book
#224> [Learning Zig] is about fundamentally changing how you think about software. Learning LISP, Fortran, APL, Perl, or really any language that is different from what you’re used to, will also do this for you.
I'd add Prolog to that list; but Fortran and Perl aren't all that different from other procedural languages.
Kind of, Perl was one of the first languages to bring FP to the masses, while Lisp and ML languages were hardly looked up by them.
Re: Open-source Zig book
#225>Learning Zig is not just about adding a language to your resume. It is about fundamentally changing how you think about software. Zig is just C with a marketing push. Most developers already know C.
I would rephrase it as, Zig is just Modula-2 with a C like syntax.
Re: Open-source Zig book
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd add Prolog to that list; but Fortran and Perl aren't all that different from other procedural languages.
Kind of, Perl was one of the first languages to bring FP to the masses, while Lisp and ML languages were hardly looked up by them. See https://hop.perl.plover.com/book/
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Re: Open-source Zig book
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
That statement is honestly self-contradictory. If a draft was AI-generated and then reviewed, edited, and owned by a human contributor, then the parts which survived reviewing and editing verbatim were still AI-generated...
Why do you care, if a human reviewed and edited it, someone filtered it to make sure it’s correct. It’s validated to be correct, that is the main point.
> if a human reviewed and edited it, someone filtered it to make sure it’s correct
Yes.
But it's not “free from AI-generated prose”, so why advertise it as such?
And since the first sentence is a lie, why should we believe the second sentence at all?
Re: Open-source Zig book
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you provide some examples where the text reeks of AI?
I read the first few paragraphs. Very much reads like LLM slop to me... E.g., "Zig takes a different path. It reveals complexity—and then gives you the tools to master it." If we had a reliable oracle, I would happily bet a $K on significant LLM authorship.
Yeah and then why would they explicitly deny it? Maybe the AI was instructed not to reveal its origin. It's painful to enjoy this book if I know it's likely made by an LLM.
Re: Open-source Zig book
#229> [Learning Zig] is about fundamentally changing how you think about software. Learning LISP, Fortran, APL, Perl, or really any language that is different from what you’re used to, will also do this for you.
I agree, I love zig but the things that make me program differently are features like excellent enum/union support, defer and comptime, which aren't readily available in the other languages I tend to use (C++, Fortran and Python).
Re: Open-source Zig book
#230wow, it's so cool.