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ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…

Cops be cops: https://denverite.com/2025/10/27/bow-mar-flock-cameras-accus...

In that case it's Bow Mar, a small town in Colorado, relying on flock cameras to issue tickets for petty theft.

We as a society just aren't capable of using these toys right.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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post #165

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Question for a future (2026?) dystopia: if our faces aren't secret or private for 4A/5A purposes, can we start making them secret/private by walking around in public with a balaclava? New norms go both ways.

We now know why people had such weird makeup/facial modification attachments in dystopian sci-fi. Luckily we have libertarians, 1990s Republicans, and Hannity and Infowars fans that will fight vehemently to stop this sort of face scanning. It is all of theirs' nightmare scenarios way past all their red lines up there with Walmarts turned into relocation camps. But until they sort it out is it possible to make tempora…

It used to be cv dazzle [0] is 15 years young. But its questionable if it works anymore. Theres also a bunch of of digital camo, most seem to target IR cameras [1] here's a homebrew version.

[0] https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle

[1] https://www.macpierce.com/the-camera-shy-hoodie

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#224

The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…

Cops be cops: https://denverite.com/2025/10/27/bow-mar-flock-cameras-accus... In that case it's Bow Mar, a small town in Colorado, relying on flock cameras to issue tickets for petty theft. We as a society just aren't capable of using these toys right.

I'd say it's nice to see that particular demographic at the business end of this 1984 crap since they're usually the ones pushing it but I don't think the rest of them are smart enough to have the "that could be me" reaction.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#225
post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Question for a future (2026?) dystopia: if our faces aren't secret or private for 4A/5A purposes, can we start making them secret/private by walking around in public with a balaclava? New norms go both ways.

We now know why people had such weird makeup/facial modification attachments in dystopian sci-fi. Luckily we have libertarians, 1990s Republicans, and Hannity and Infowars fans that will fight vehemently to stop this sort of face scanning. It is all of theirs' nightmare scenarios way past all their red lines up there with Walmarts turned into relocation camps. But until they sort it out is it possible to make tempora…

Totally forgot this gem [0].

Done hide. Overwhelm.

[0] https://adam.harvey.studio/hyperface/

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#226

In half an hour, Gregory Bovino, who heads some ICE operation in Chicago, is supposed to appear before a Federal judge to be questioned on what ICE did to whom today. Let's see if he shows up.

Didn't happen. A frantic appeal by the Administration to the 7th circuit court of appeals postponed it.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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post #22

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All of the replies to my comment are focusing on the definition of irony. It's like I'm 12 years old again hearing all my classmates talk about why having spoons when you need a knife isn't "actually" irony.

What did you actually expect from commenters on this site?

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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post #64
post #6

The irony of doing this while covering their own faces

What's ironic about it? That's like saying it's ironic for soldiers to fire their guns while in a trench. They're doing things unto others that they would not have done unto them.

> That's like saying it's ironic for soldiers to fire their guns while in a trench.

ICE using military tactics (be it trenches or masks) is the real problem here. ICE aren't soldiers, they're a part of law enforcement.

Unfortunately in the U.S. today we not only do use troops for law enforcement, but we're using law enforcement as troops. Neither is the correct role for those services.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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post #64

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What's ironic about it? That's like saying it's ironic for soldiers to fire their guns while in a trench. They're doing things unto others that they would not have done unto them.

Except law is not a battle field, otherwise lawyers would decide the victors, or guns the outcomes of trials. Law is supposed to strive for justice, war is as lawless as it can get away with.

In this case, ICE officer's are being shot at.
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