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AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Almost anywhere in America is also cheaper than California.

Yep. The NYC area is one exception. I've worked at a company that was acquired, and they laid off quite a few of the NYC-area employees. Rumor had it that some of them were making more than their managers, and their managers' managers.

> Rumor had it that some of them were making more than their managers, and their managers' managers.

So on par with actual value created.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Part of me wonders how much of that 1.5B is the value of all those chat logs.

Chat logs from AOL Instant Messenger, which shut down in 2017, and was obsolete for almost a decade prior to that?

And in common with other first wave chat products had entirely client side chat logs anyway.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Alright, if anyone is still using AOL: get the hell out of it. Bending Spoons is probably one of the companies I loathe the most from what I know from outside and even more from insider's knowledge. Anything they touch turns into dark pattern ridden turds. I honestly wish there was a page with all the products they purchased, so that I can avoid them forever.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45749641

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Is this why Criterion streaming quality is so poor? It’s completely unacceptable for a service that is supposed to pride itself on loving movies and preserving them. Sometimes the scene will be dark and I will descend into some sort of weird 8 bit pixel world.

Is there any streaming option with non dogshit quality?

Many — but you have fork over a significant chunk of change to view them.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Revenue. They’ve still got millions of email/portal users and they own LifeLock, Lastpass, and a bunch of other crap. They are still rumored to do nearly a half billion a year in revenue and the margins are good.

> they own LifeLock, Lastpass AOL owns neither of these

You’re right, I guess they sell plans to seniors that include those bundled in but don’t own them.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Wow, that's interesting. I was a very early Evernote (paid) user. But they lost their way sometime after they became a unicorn, so I bailed out. I had assumed, since they were bought, that it was just a way to squeeze money from existing users. I had no idea they were actually improving things.

I like Evernote but it just isn’t worth $130 / year for me. Last year they had a sale for $50 (or was it $60) for a year and I paid for that. If I can’t renew at that I’ll have to figure out how to migrate to Obsidian.

Wait a sec — you're saying you'll take the time and trouble to "... figure out how to migrate to Obsidian" rather than pay the $70-$80 renewal premium over what you paid last year? Let's do a thought experiment. Suppose you spend a total of 3 hours from start to finish doing the migration. That's the equivalent of being paid $25/hour in lieu of paying the Evernote full price renewal as opposed to what you paid on sale last year. I have a feeling you would not consider that close to being what your time is worth nor to what you're paid in your day job.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Is there any streaming option with non dogshit quality?

For streaming movies and TV at reasonable prices? No, but you can DIY with Plex and get Blu-ray quality

Dont do Plex! Closed source that leaks what you upload to Plex. And they're owned by big media - so only time they start suing users for files they know they have.

Instead, check out FLOSS server Jellyfin!

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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People usually mention Evernote when Bending Spoons is brought up, but I also know them as purchasing Meetup (after it was already sort of struggling) and, more recently, entering an agreement to purchase Vimeo (of which I'm a paid user). AOL was already a husk, and has been arguably since they got rid of the triangle logo. It was already owned by a private equity firm, Apollo Global Management, as a subsidiary of Ya…

It sounds like Bending Spoons is where old tech products go to die? I guess that's private equity for you.

They are digital private equity essentially

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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I like Evernote but it just isn’t worth $130 / year for me. Last year they had a sale for $50 (or was it $60) for a year and I paid for that. If I can’t renew at that I’ll have to figure out how to migrate to Obsidian.

Wait a sec — you're saying you'll take the time and trouble to "... figure out how to migrate to Obsidian" rather than pay the $70-$80 renewal premium over what you paid last year? Let's do a thought experiment. Suppose you spend a total of 3 hours from start to finish doing the migration. That's the equivalent of being paid $25/hour in lieu of paying the Evernote full price renewal as opposed to what you paid on sal…

I'm trying to imagine a product manager calling me to say, "Hi, we just bought this product you use, we're raising prices and firing the dev team. But hahahaha, you can't quit us, I have a spreadsheet here that says your time escaping our clutches will cost you more than paying the extortion fee to cover us buying the tool and the profit we need. Tough luck, but you have no logical alternative."

I'm not sure that my relationship with tools is so bloodless that it is only driven by dollars, cents, and minutes. I'm not sure I have to clench my teeth and write that product manager a cheque.

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