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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by kelnos »

kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

> They make nice stuff.

Do they? I've never owned a Samsung phone, in large part because I was always turned off by reports that they liked to skin Android in annoying/lame ways. I have a Samsung fridge/freezer (old and not-smart), but the in-door ice maker has a design flaw that causes condensation to drip, freeze, and clog it, so we've given up on it and just make our own ice with regular old-school trays in the freezer.

I'm not going to say they make crap, but their stuff is... okay, I guess.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by ReptileMan »

t1234s wrote: post #61

Is there an alternative OS scene for these types of appliances?

Yesterday I was seriously thinking about aftermarket control boards startup for some of my appliances (mostly the AC that has disgustingly low performance because of eco modes). Seems that there will be one for fridges too.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by dingaling »

grepfru_it wrote: post #83
toomuchtodo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've bought GE recently with good luck (GSS25IYNFSS, specifically). No affiliation, just someone who buys a lot of appliances that need to last and be simple for longevity (housing provider). My kingdom for someone who could build the old, reliable tanks of yesteryear. https://ncph.org/history-at-work/rethinking-the-refrigerator... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator

Crap crap and more crap. The quality control on GE fridges is absolutely the worst of all worst. It's possible because you are working with the economy of scale that you don't see the typical problems that individuals run into. But I went through 5 in a row and every single one had a problem. Switched to LG and never looked back

GE's appliances business was sold to Haier of China in 2016

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by kelnos »

justinclift wrote: post #193
embedding-shape wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, my family started buying LG stuff for our appliances and otherwise, and none of the stuff has forceful ads on them, at least yet. Currently I think we have LG TVs, fridge, dish washer, drier, washing machine and something else I can't remember, all of them working well, has nice and fast at-home support when needed and no ads even on the TVs.

> Currently I think we have LG TVs > no ads even on the TVs. Um, have you needed to change anything for your LG TVs to not display ads? Asking because modern LG TVs seem to display ads too. :( Saying that because I was recently looking for a TV, and considered LG, but many people seem to be having regrets now due to ads being shown.

LG TVs do have some settings related to ads, but my solution was to just not connect it to the internet in the first place.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by lawlessone »

lexszero_ wrote: post #204
kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

For a short while, I worked at one of Samsung subsidiaries on their TV firmware, mostly fixing Linux kernel bugs introduced by the product teams cannibalizing upstream features to serve their needs (including intentionally disabling reasonable kernel security measures that happened to be in their way). I've seen things, both technical and organizational, that led me to pledge never to give my money to that company, o…

i would have thought "better the devil you know" here. The other manufacturers are probably doing similar shenanigans

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Post by dylan604 »

analog31 wrote: post #201
Fwirt wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

Maybe we need a new boots theory: The rich person buys a $3500 pair of boots that comes with surveillance, useless AI, and bricks itself on the next firmware update. The poor person buys a pair of boots, that are... boots.

Isn't that reversed now? You can only afford the device that is subsidized by the analytics you will be generating for them while the rich person can afford to by the non-subsidized version.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by kragen »

kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

If you're buying chips (other than Flash) made with cutting-edge semiconductor processes, your options are only Samsung and TSMC. How long will it take Samsung's foundries to start adding malicious hardware implants to their customers' designs?

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Post by dylan604 »

tempest_ wrote: post #113
Fwirt wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

The issue is that the 10k fridge is not actually any better. The "luxury" appliances can be double that and are still shit.

The old fridge had much smaller usable volume inside. Modern insulation allows for thinner walls which increases capacity. Same for modern ovens.

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Post by kragen »

dylan604 wrote: post #227
analog31 wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we need a new boots theory: The rich person buys a $3500 pair of boots that comes with surveillance, useless AI, and bricks itself on the next firmware update. The poor person buys a pair of boots, that are... boots.

Isn't that reversed now? You can only afford the device that is subsidized by the analytics you will be generating for them while the rich person can afford to by the non-subsidized version.

No, these are US$3500 fridges.
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