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Post by vunderba »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #27
bdavisx wrote: post #12

Serious question - it seems that many of this Administrations activities are illegal in some way or the other. I know that government officials are shielded from a lot of actions so they can not be prosecuted. What actions that have been taken could actually be prosecuted? For example, I would have to assume that the ballroom demolition and build-out is illegal, there were $0 appropriated from Congress for this, and…

> it seems that many of this Administrations activities are illegal Many are. This one is not. The President has sweeping pardon powers. The solution is to strike the final phrase in Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution: “and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” [1]. There isn’t a place for one-man pardons in a r…

Between sweeping abuse of executive orders, declaring emergency powers, and the pardon system (there's a reason it used to be called the "royal pardon"), my only hope is that this will finally open the public's eyes to the MASSIVE overreach that a US president has. It needs to be heavily curtailed.

The pardon system in particular really pisses me off. The argument that one rando at the top of the pyramid somehow magically knows better than the entire judicial system is such a load of horsecrap. For any injustice that the pardon system might be able to correct, it can and does just as easily introduce more injustices.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by daveguy »

bityard wrote: post #207
Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

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Well, to be fair, 7 million showed up in the streets on Saturday. Up from 5 million before and up from 3 million before that. The last election was decided by 2.3 million votes.

Edit1: That's not to say don't worry about it. That's to say everyone can show their displeasure with peaceful protest and involvement/activism that will make it clear the people of the US disagree with this corruption. No matter how much any internet groups scream "stolen".

Edit2: people vastly underestimate, in their media bubbles, how many showed up from "red" states.

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Post by Arubis »

Animats wrote: post #89

I wonder if civil forfeiture will work against Trump once he's out of office. Trump's net worth before becoming President was under US$1 billion. Now it's over 6 billion. A civil claim for the difference based on the Emoluments Acts. "The Foreign Emoluments Clause bars the president and other federal officials from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or fo…

I suspect Trump will leave office in a box, not on his feet. Such a civil claim would then have to be against his estate, which probably complicates things.

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Post by latexr »

mandeepj wrote: post #58
metalliqaz wrote: post #43

shameless corruption

I'm not sure why Presidents were given the ability to pardon. Besides corruption, bias, or self-interest, nothing else can come out of it.

> I'm not sure why Presidents were given the ability to pardon.

Won’t somebody please think of the ~~children~~ turkeys?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Thanksgiving_Turkey_P...

Joking aside, Wikipedia does have a history of it. It goes way back, way before the USA was even a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_...

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Post by themafia »

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

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Post by jrockway »

bityard wrote: post #207
Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

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I mean, we shut down the government and so now we're just waiting (a year) for the midterms. What else do you expect people to do?

Among other things, people are constantly challenging Trump in court and have reversed many of his policies. For example, my passport needed to be renewed this year and he signed an executive order saying I couldn't get an accurate one. The ACLU sued him and now I have an accurate passport. Living your best life in spite of his attempts to ruin it is a valid form of resistance. He wants to erase trans people. I'm out there not being erased. That's something.

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Post by j2kun »

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

They wouldn't be fine with it if they understood it. Instead they are not paying attention and only consuming propaganda media (Fox News) that refuses to report on Trump negatively in any way.

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Post by arandr0x »

SoftTalker wrote: post #173
mikkupikku wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably right, because she smoozed with Biden, but with Trump anything is possible with the right bribes.

Does SBF have any ability to pay a bribe at this point? I suppose one might assume he has some funds stashed offshore somewhere.

His parents might but I don't think they're accepting bribes from Stanford profs. Maybe CZ can advocate for him to have a rival again.

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Post by froggertoaster »

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.
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