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Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Might be a good time to enable E2EE on your Ring cams if you haven’t already: https://ring.com/support/articles/7e3lk/using-video-end-to-e...

Bad news: Ring just enabled opt-in-by-default "search parties" for people to leverage your outdoor cameras to find their "lost animals". https://ring.com/search-party

I love how evil the concept of "opt-in-by-default" is. It's so rapey and sinister.

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And this is why my setup will be using Reolink cameras integrated locally via HomeAssistant and Frigate. Detection runs locally on cameras and/or in Frigate, HA manages events and UI, and the only way to access any of it remotely is via VPN, no "cloud" anything. If the authorities come knocking with a warrant, or frankly, even a nicely-worded sensible request, sure, have at it. But ain't nobody accessing the footage…

dude thinks reolink is more secure -- awful lot of 9.9 CVSS vulns for them

What are the nature of those vulnerabilities though? How many require physical access or network access to exploit?

If someone is in my house tapped into the network, cameras are the least of my problems.

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The police has access to the planimetry of your home. Secondly, if they get close enough they can measure the distance between the agent and the router, and then deduce all the relative distances from the router to the people inside.

This is sci-fi fantasy mixed with paranoia. The floor plan of every home is not on file, especially older homes. Police aren’t accessing your floor plan and then accessing your router and combining these into a perfect model that maps people’s locations. Where in this supposed plan are the police deducing the location of your WiFi router in the house and constructing a model of all materials and objects in the house…

Yet. Given the availability of the data online and that most new startups are defense or security oriented, it’s only a matter of time.

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These are mappable in OpenStreetMap with the tags surveillance:type=camera + camera:mount=doorbell Data query around the Netherlands shows about a hundred are mapped so far as specifically doorbell cameras: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2dQw (the tag does not yet seem established in the USA). There are also many thousands of cameras mapped that are either not doorbell-mounted, or simply not tagged to such detail. This…

Seems like a fairly impractical thing to map unless you're getting volunteers to walk up to and inspect people's front doors. I know there is an app for a sort of gamified version of this where people take tasks to verify street signs or even how many stories a building has, I used that app for a while, but doorbell mapping seems a lot leas casual.

If I can see them, they can see me. No need to walk onto anyone's property, the whole point (for me at least) is to map things that surveil public spaces

It's more casual than surveying e.g. addresses that may be hard to see if the building is recessed, but you'd still want to capture it because someone will want to route there sooner or later. Not so for cameras that only capture own property

StreetComplete has a "things" overlay that makes it very quick to add these at the position of a front door

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The police have a very safe job, generally. They've done studies and construction workers have a much higher rate of injury and death than the police in the US. People have this idea that being a police officer is really unsafe and that they're throwing themselves in the line of danger just by doing their jobs, but most people are law-abiding and civil. There are people who are not, but that's not a good reason for t…

I think those narratives aren’t really correct either. At a 50,000 foot level, yes those numbers work out. But occupational numbers look at all sworn officers and don’t necessarily tell the story about the line police on the street. That said, the harrowing tales weaved by the unions in their negotiations or in TV don’t tell it either. Highway patrol officers have a similar risk profile to construction workers. Mostl…

See https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6400077/

My understanding is that the most predictive thing that harms you after traumatic events is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_injury

which can even come from situations where you want to help people but you can't so it also badly affects teachers, nurses and other people who come across people's dysfunction and suffering. It's worse to be made to feel that you violated your own values than it is to, say, get shot.

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post #23

Might be a good time to enable E2EE on your Ring cams if you haven’t already: https://ring.com/support/articles/7e3lk/using-video-end-to-e...

Bad news: Ring just enabled opt-in-by-default "search parties" for people to leverage your outdoor cameras to find their "lost animals". https://ring.com/search-party

Thanks for the heads up, just went in and disabled it on my 2 cameras. Next step will be to throw these privacy invading pieces of junk in the trash. Just need to find a comparable product.

Are there any wireless (running power to these locations is not an option) doorbell cams that record to local storage instead of the cloud? I refuse to pay a subscription for these things.

Ideally they would record to my server instead of onboard SD card so that the footage can't just walk away if someone grabs the camera.

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Read more Solarpunk? From a writers standpoint though, I suspect its easier to weave a dramatic plot through a dystopic background than a more optimistic one

"It's about a family with a robot helper, that doesn't go beserk, and eventually recreates their late grandmother's casserole recipe using AI. It's a guaranteed bestseller!"

You're joking, but you're not far off from Murderbot by Martha Wells, which has done phenomenally well.

Swapping grandma's casserole recipe for fighting mega-corps might be the big difference.

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Many people (including in this website) are hard at work creating the torment nexus.

No doubt. The question is, is that the explicit goal, and if so, why? And if not, don't they consider the effects of their actions, if they aren't, why?

Gotta bring home that stable paycheck (not justifying it)

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Immigrants with no criminal record now largest group in ICE detention: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/26/immigrants-c... ICE Agents Rappel from Helicopter in Overnight Chicago Raid, Dragging Kids from Beds to U-Hauls: https://people.com/ice-agents-overnight-chicago-raid-1182308... Feds detain WGN-TV staffer, slam into resident’s car in Lincoln Square: https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/10/…

I and many other US citizens were brutally imprisoned by CBP/DHS under Biden and no one gave a shit, and at the time it wasn't the cool hot topic for lawyers so ACLU and none of the civil rights lawyers I contacted were interested. I even pointed it out here on HN, I was accused of having it coming, it wasn't until Trump came into power that anyone other than my own family actually believed the story about DHS impris…

DHS should've been abolished a long time ago. Biden was a wasted opportunity - all he did was preside over the already bad status quo instead of changing it for the better. I'm sorry this happened to you.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Having tried to do this already to no avail, does anyone know if as an owner of one of these Ring devices if it's possible to take it offline and handle everything locally? I'm usually against these types of "smart" devices, but only bought it because my house got burgled as a student (whilst I was asleep!), so I got pretty shaken up and got the cheapest thing I could find. Currently, I do have it connected to a loca…

Ring has better than typical device security. If you’re not looking to reverse engineer a brand new exploit, there are other devices that do the same thing but are designed to be local first.

Google for rtsp doorbell and you’ll find many discussion threads

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