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Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Why all the animations? Not only for this WM, but hyprland, too, for example. They are just way too distracting, I don't understand why people like them. Yes, i know they can usually be deactivated, but it's stupid to have them as default

The funny thing about Niri is the choice in animations. When you resize a window, it fades out and then fades back in… it would look much smoother to simply resize the window as you drag. The fading effect almost looks like a glitch.

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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I'm basically fullscreen with everything all the time on macos, but not in the super-duper-fullscreen mode so cmd-tab/cmd-` works predictably. I want this on macos. I know I can't have it on macos. I also can't switch to Linux since macos is mandated by my employer. Nothing really to take out of it except that I feel like I'm not alone feeling stuck, knowing there are better workflows and not being able to do anythin…

If there is one thing about macOS that really sucks, it is the window management. I have been using it for three months now and still don't understand how to use it.

It is not that I am inexperienced (Windows 95/98/2k/XP/Vista/7/8/10/11, Linux with all kinds of Desktops over the years (KDE 2/3/4/5/6, Gnome 2/3, Sway, Unity, XFCE, Enlightenment, blackbox, ...)), or that I didn't try (searched, watched several YouTube tutorials). I also tried different options, such as disabling the entire "Displays have separate spaces" feature (it fixes some cases, but others worsen).

My verdict is simple: They would be better off just adopting the dumb Microsoft Windows 95 approach to window management.

And it isn't that I don't like the system overall. I have never had a laptop with such superb performance, and at the same time, it stays cool as ice and silent. I love the animated video backgrounds on the lock screen with the slowdown on login, and having Zsh as the default is also fun. But the window management...

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Thank you for the explanation! Between your explanation and a Youtube video I found of someone using it, I think have a grip on the "why" now. Interestingly, it seems like I might use i3 a little differently than you did. A single working context for me can span many desktops, and I just work in a way that keeps my number of concurrent working contexts low. I only ever have 1-2 programs on any given desktop, and even…

Yes it seems like you're using i3 quite differently. I agree that if you good discipline about opening and closing windows in the right workspace/tile i3 can give you a more structured layout. I just found for myself even if I tried I could not keep the discipline up (I doesn't help that I often work on several things at the same time). I think that's the beauty of tiling WMs (and I consider scrolling WMs a subset),…

I think my i3 "style" came from using a 12-inch thinkpad for many years. The small screen size and low resolution force you to work in certain ways. And if I had left 100 Firefox tabs open on that machine's second-gen mobile i5, I think it would have melted straight through the desk.

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

#227

Niri convinced me to give up xmonad. I ran xmonad exclusively for 14 years. Being able to have an unlimited number of windows on a desktop (without continually switching the tiling structure) makes them collections of topics rather than having multiple desktops bounded by what fits comfortably. What used to be a switch from the "editor and terminals" desktop to the "browser" desktop is now horizontal movement on the…

NixOS will get you there (or anywhere, to any version, of any thing, and/or back again) just by pinning any conceivable package (and it has more than any other Linux distro) to a particular nixpkgs hash. I thought of this because it sounds like one of the reasons you're not upgrading it is fearing the risk of it fucking everything up and it being a pain to roll back (your "it ain't broke, so why fix it?" is a hallmar…

What LLM(s) do you use or recommend for nix?

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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post #6

I'm basically fullscreen with everything all the time on macos, but not in the super-duper-fullscreen mode so cmd-tab/cmd-` works predictably. I want this on macos. I know I can't have it on macos. I also can't switch to Linux since macos is mandated by my employer. Nothing really to take out of it except that I feel like I'm not alone feeling stuck, knowing there are better workflows and not being able to do anythin…

If there is one thing about macOS that really sucks, it is the window management. I have been using it for three months now and still don't understand how to use it. It is not that I am inexperienced (Windows 95/98/2k/XP/Vista/7/8/10/11, Linux with all kinds of Desktops over the years (KDE 2/3/4/5/6, Gnome 2/3, Sway, Unity, XFCE, Enlightenment, blackbox, ...)), or that I didn't try (searched, watched several YouTube…

This is my exact experience! I really tried for 6 months and I just couldn't avoid fumbling around. For example, the experience of going in/out of fullscreen is jarring.

What's funny is that when someone first learns about Alt+Tab it's like the best cheat-code for any desktop navigation, but after switching to Niri, Alt+Tab seems like a silly way to layout your windows.

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

#229
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Very often it's not a choice, a lot of companies only let developers choose between Windows or MacOS laptops for work.

Sure, but I see a lot of devs who have MacOS as their personal laptop and then complain about something in MacOS that is a non-issue in Linux.

I have a Mac for Mac-type-things, and Linux for work-type-things. Neither is perfect, and I could equally complain about either. That said, if I had to give one up it would be an incredibly easy choice.

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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I'd consider it just an opinionated distribution of Arch, with a lot of flex. Sure, I think if you disagree with the majority, you'd go Arch and rice your own from the base install (lot of folks who do), but if not, it's a very streamlined way to get off to the races with a community supporting the shared baseline 'opinions'

What am saying is you can't flex if people half baked the work for you, "btw I use Arch" was a flex because you had to configure everything yourself. So it's a but ridiculous imho, there's no flex in it but you try to flex anyways...

It’s a meme, not a flex.
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