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Post by duxup »

IshKebab wrote: post #216
duxup wrote: post #212

Hard to imagine this is anything useful beyond "give us all your data" in exchange for some awkward unprompted advice?

This could be amazing for dealing with schools - I get information from my kids' school through like 5 different channels: Tapestry, email, a newsletter, parents WhatsApp groups (x2), Arbor, etc. etc. And 90% of the information is not stuff I care about. The newsletter will be mostly "we've been learning about lighthouses this week" but they'll slip in "make sure your child is wearing wellies on Friday!" right at the…

I feel you there, although it would also be complicated by those teachers who are just bad at technology and don't use those things well too.

God bless them for teaching, but dang it someone get them to send emails and not emails with PDFs with the actual message and so on.

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Post by stavros »

blks wrote: post #182
jama211 wrote: post #145

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Not this again. That study had serious problems. But I’m not even going to argue about that. I want to raise something no one else seems to mention about AI in coding work. I do a lot of work now with AI that I used to code by hand, and if you told me I was 20% slower on average, I would say “that’s totally fine it’s still worth it” because the EFFORT level from my end feels so much less. It’s like, a robot vacuum mi…

Often someone’s personal productivity with AI means someone else have to dig through their piles of rubbish to review PR they committed. In your particular case it sounds like you’re rapidly loosing your developer skills, and enjoy that now you have to put less effort and think less.

I'm losing my developer skills like I lost my writing skills when I got a keyboard. Yes, I can no longer write with a pen, but that doesn't mean I can't write.

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Post by sebastiennight »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #141
jsheard wrote: post #76

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> My personal productivity has skyrocketed in the last 12 months. Has your productivity objectively, measurably improved or does it just feel like it has improved? Recall the METR study which caught programmers self-reporting they were 20% faster with AI when they were actually 20% slower.

If you want another data point, you can just look at my company github ( https://github.com/orgs/sibyllinesoft/repositories ). ~27 projects in the last 5 weeks, probably on the order of half a million lines of code, and multiple significant projects that are approaching ship readiness (I need to stop tuning algorithms and making stuff gorgeous and just fix installation/ensure cross platform is working, lol).

First off, congrats on the progress.

Second, as you seem to be an entrepreneur, I would suggest you consider adopting the belief that you've not been productive until the thing's shipped into prod and available for purchase. Until then you've just been active.

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Post by boldlybold »

psyclobe wrote: post #219

ChatGPT has given me wings to tackle projects I would've never had the impetus to tackle, finally I know how to use my oscilloscope and I am repairing vintage amps; fun times.

I agree - the ability to lower activation energy in a field you're interested in, but not yet an expert, feels like having superpowers.

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Post by Kiro »

jsheard wrote: post #76
jasonsb wrote: post #66

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> I’m rapidly losing interest in all of these tools. It feels like blockchain again in a lot of weird ways. It doesn't feel like blockchain at all. Blockchain is probably the most useless technology ever invented (unless you're a criminal or an influencer who makes ungodly amounts of money off of suckers). AI is a powerful tool for those who are willing to put in the work. People who have the time, knowledge and crit…

> My personal productivity has skyrocketed in the last 12 months. Has your productivity objectively, measurably improved or does it just feel like it has improved? Recall the METR study which caught programmers self-reporting they were 20% faster with AI when they were actually 20% slower.

The "you only think you're more productive" argument is tiresome. Yes, I know for sure that I'm more productive. There's nothing uncertain about it. Does it lead to other problems? No doubt, but claiming my productivity gains are imaginary is not serious.

I've seen a lot of people who previously touted that it doesn't work at all use that study as a way to move the goalpost and pretend they've been right all along.

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Post by fbxio »

miyoji wrote: post #133
moralestapia wrote: post #127

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"Not done" vs "Done" is as objective as it gets.

You obviously have never worked a company that spends time arguing about the "definition of done". It's one of the most subjective topics I know about.

It removes ambiguity. Everyone knows when work is truly considered done, avoiding rework, surprises, and finger-pointing down the line.

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Post by sebastiennight »

oofbey wrote: post #208
CuriouslyC wrote: post #148

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The SWE industry is eagerly awaiting your proposed accurate metric. I find that people who dismiss LoC out of hand without supplying better metrics tend to be low performers trying to run for cover.

Loc is so easy to game. Reformat. Check in a notebook. Move things around. Pointless refactor. If nobody is watching loc, it’s generally a good metric. But as soon as people start valuing it, it becomes useless.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart's_law

and, in the case of "Lines of code" as a metric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

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Post by crorella »

psyclobe wrote: post #219

ChatGPT has given me wings to tackle projects I would've never had the impetus to tackle, finally I know how to use my oscilloscope and I am repairing vintage amps; fun times.

same, I had a great idea (and a decently detailed plan) to improve an open source project, but never had the time and willpower to dive into the code, with codex it was one night to set it up and then slowing implementing every step of what I had originally planned.

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Post by CuriouslyC »

dmamills wrote: post #211
CuriouslyC wrote: post #148

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The SWE industry is eagerly awaiting your proposed accurate metric. I find that people who dismiss LoC out of hand without supplying better metrics tend to be low performers trying to run for cover.

A metric I'd be interested in is the number of clients you can convince to use this slop.

That's a sales metric brother.
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