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Re: Helium Browser

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I hope that not. Or at least, get out of the control of the controversial person behind it. If I would put all the eggs on a basket, I will prefer Servo.

Does the person's political opinion even matter if the product is good quality ? 20 years ago, nobody used to care.

I remember the times, too, when the person behind the code did not matter. The code did.

Re: Helium Browser

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While chromium deep down, it seems they mostly ripped and repackaged from defunct projects and companies such as ungoogled-chromium and the irridium browser, right? Why would 2 cat avatars carry what others obviously failed to maintain?

The only problem is it disables OOB security updates.

https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/

Re: Helium Browser

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> Helium is based on Chromium > Best privacy by default Sorry, pass... Even with un-googled Chromium I do not think these statements are self-consistent. We need browsers that do not allow Google to control the ecosystem. We need legitimate competition. So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Safari (WebKit), and Ladybird? Personally I go with Firefox on most devices and Orion (WebKit) on my iPhone and iPad. > Heli…

Safari should be on Windows. I don't care what CSS standards it has, it needs to give Chrome and Firefox some competition

It used to be there, 2007-2012 https://archive.org/details/safari-5.1.7-windows

I found an announcement in Italian on Apple website. It's from June 2007 https://www.apple.com/it/newsroom/2007/06/11Apple-Introduces...

The original plan with the iPhone was to have web apps, not native apps. That's why they needed to run the rendering engine of the iPhone on Windows. Then they went native and Mac only with the dev environment.

I don't think that Apple would earn one single dollar by porting Safari to Windows again.

Re: Helium Browser

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its been a daily driver for me for a pretty long time now and i can say that its amazing to work with.

i dangle between Zen and Helium and both are a very solid option imo. I don't really get all the browser wars

Re: Helium Browser

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Yeah, everyone is doing their little contribution to help Google take over the Web and turn it into ChromeOS Platform. Why did we ever bothered with the IE lawsuit, for a newer generation to give the Web on a plate to Google?

The last thing Google would want is the web to turn into a Chrome platform. Unlike with Microsoft or even Apple, their source of revenue is web, and they they are doing everything in their capacity for this platform to win. This is exactly why they open-sourced most of Chrome and almost fully finance Chrome's biggest competitor.

An alternative explanation is they fund Mozilla to avoid a monopoly breakup. The evidence? The fact that everyone currently knows exactly how much Google pays Mozilla because of the recent attempt to do a monopoly breakup.

Re: Helium Browser

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I was excited for a new Helium browser release and it just turns out that people these days don’t even do a single google search before using a name that is already taken. https://slashlos.github.io/Helium/

No commits on that project for 5 years, so what are you talking about?

Re: Helium Browser

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> Helium is based on Chromium > Best privacy by default Sorry, pass... Even with un-googled Chromium I do not think these statements are self-consistent. We need browsers that do not allow Google to control the ecosystem. We need legitimate competition. So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Safari (WebKit), and Ladybird? Personally I go with Firefox on most devices and Orion (WebKit) on my iPhone and iPad. > Heli…

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Re: Helium Browser

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post #186

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WebGPL, WebRTC, Gamepad API, WebASM etc Years behind Gecko and Chromium. Don't get me started on codec support with Safari. Webkit is the new IE.

WebGPU not yet a W3C standard (it's at the previous step, as a "candidate recommendation"). Apple's WebGPU implementation went live before Firefox's implementation. WebRTC went live in Safari the same year that the non-draft version went live in Chrome (Chrome supported the pre-standard webkit-prefixed version for some years before). Similarly, Safari added support for WASM the same year that WASM was standardised (o…

Yea the funny thing is that the real lie is that Safari is behind, that hasn’t been true for many years now.

The further irony is calling it the “new IE” when in fact it’s Chrome that is far more similar to the IE of old, at least in terms of the dirty tricks - dominant market share, uses it to push non-standards, stuffs in user hostile features to the brim, and spies on you incessantly. The only difference is it’s not terrible at performance.

Re: Helium Browser

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I think we're many years off it even being viable for most people

They haven’t solved security yet. They are doomed to repeat Firefox/Chrome issues until they start using that Swift.

what's Swift's role in security?

Re: Helium Browser

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post #155

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Unfortunely most people have decided it isn't worthwhile to buy software, including those whose job depends on selling software.

Are you saying that, because people don't want to buy browsers, the end result is we only get the ones that can be financed by companies that sell other things (which in this day and age is ads, with only a few exceptions)? I'd agree. Although I'd also add: people don't want to sell software anymore, they want to sell subscriptions, and I personally do not have much desire to pay $10/month for a browser (and then get…

Because unfortunelly subscriptions is the only way to make people pay that would otherwise pirate, it is the modern version of using hardware keys.
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