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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Its to raise awareness

They could set a smaller target or ask for 1-dollar donations if they’re after maximum exposure. Here’s hoping they actually donate the entire raised amount to a non-profit, because yeah I don’t get the feeling they need the money at all.

They would receive even more blow-back for $1 dollnations from HN here.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

This is a form of marketing.

You seem to be implying that it is bad because it is marketing, and marketing is bad. But not all forms of marketing are bad. This is a classic association fallacy[1]. In this case, Deno can both improve perception of their brand and reclaim "JavaScript" -- it's a win-win.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.

It does seem that rebranding would just fix the problem. I don’t really understand why the name is worth fighting over.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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This is a form of marketing.

It's effective. I feel positively about anyone willing to take Oracle to court.

I hope this is sarcasm.

Larry Ellison is now the wealthiest person on earth and Oracle is an incredibly litigious rent-seeking law firm masquerading as a tech company.

Good luck and godspeed to anyone with the balls to think that taking them on is a good idea.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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I wonder if we should just rename JavaScript to something else (not ECMAScript, which is an awful name). Would be difficult to coordinate, but I think if runtimes start incorporating new naming, there could be enough of a consensus to move away from the JavaScript name entirely and it could become a relic of history.

It won't be called anything other than EcmaScript because there are already millions of references to that name.

Such an awful name! From that perspective, a $200k legal battle makes total sense in comparison.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.

We can also call it ECMAScript. I always try to refer to it as ES instead of JS in professional coding context.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#229

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

Yeah I feel like Deno seems still ok for a VC backed company. They are bring values to the JS dev community, and all their code is open sourced.

Are there any down side to using deno instead of node now days?

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