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Re: This map is not upside down

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I have been rewatching Stargate SG-1 recently and noticed in S07E08 "Space Race" the surface of the planet (Hebridan) clearly had India and the Arabian Peninsula in it https://i.imgur.com/ocNHrpi.png but nearly upside down.

I wonder how many times I missed similar things just because the perspective was different than I'm used to.

Re: This map is not upside down

#222

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What did maps from China look like around then? I assume they'd center their continent somehow

They still do. Took those pictures a few days ago in China: https://gist.github.com/olalonde/d293e54c46143c3dd905da4c0eb...

That's a Pacific-centered map not a China-centered map. You can buy these in the U.S. too; I'm sure the people of Hawaii would prefer these. https://www.natgeomaps.com/re-world-classic-pacific-centered or https://www.natgeomaps.com/re-world-executive-pacific-center...

Re: This map is not upside down

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There is nothing cultural about an individual's ability to write with their right hand. Studies have been conducted on this subject: it is a physiological/neurological factor (which also applies to other parts of the human body). I know this because, well... I'm a left-handed writer and it interested me at one point (strangely enough, I find it very difficult to throw something with my left hand; and I'm right-handed…

In the past, left handed people were sometimes punished and forced to write with the other hand. Their right handed writing was an artifact of that culture.

> Their right handed writing was an artifact of that culture.

Sure. But that does not define a person as a right-handed writer. That's precisely why I wrote "individual's ABILITY to write with their right hand".

Re: This map is not upside down

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They link this[1] article, which I don't plan to read. I, too, rolled my eyes. 1: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/194855061140104...

I read it and their methodology is embarassingly bad, especially for the kind of study that can be done en masse so easily (heck, a Twitter poll would be more useful). N=28, where all were undergraduates, and 24 were women. Could easily be influenced by the college campus, location, student housing, etc. It's literally the kind of project you'd do in middle school for a science fair. Absolutely terrible study. Full p…

This is always done.

Studies of American college students to prove some sort of universal rule about human psychology.

There’s embarrassing papers that get published in every field but social sciences is where they always try and put a moralistic element in as well.

Sigh.

Re: This map is not upside down

#226
My sixth grade teacher had this map pinned to the wall. I’ll never know if it really had a meaningful influence on my outlook, but I think it probably did. Then again my opinions evolved to be opposite many of hers, so maybe it had some unintentional side effects.

Re: This map is not upside down

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I’m not sure it’s arbitrary. For one, starting at the top and ending at the bottom is natural progress of things because of gravity. I’m not sure if that means anything, but down-to-up seems very unnatural (of coure I can’t ignore my cultural biases). Is there any writing systems like that?

Gravity is just a random natural process to pick for your point. You could just as easily say “bottom to top is natural because that’s the direction trees grow”. It’s all arbitrary.

I don't think it takes knowledge of gravity/energy/entropy to generalize that things more naturally "fall down" rather things naturally "rise up". But, it's probably a stretch to say that influenced writing direction.

Others have made a possibly more relevant point - in one direction, your arm/hand will block what you have already written.

Re: This map is not upside down

#228

My favorite is the Dymaxion projection created by Bucky Fuller. It shows all seven continents as one roughly contiguous chain of islands from Australia to Antarctica, surrounded by a giant ocean. It's no more or less correct than "north up" projections. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Dymaxion...

In college I wanted to buy a large printed Dymaxion map of the world to put in my dorm, as opposed to the usual movie posters. I could not find any place selling such a print.
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