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Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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dual-pane file manager For some reason, the technical term for these is Orthodox File Manager , which I've always thought was an obscure cultural in-joke from the countries where these were most popular --- Eastern Europe and the former USSR. This origin is elaborated at length here: https://softpanorama.org/Articles/introduction_to_orthodox_f...

I'd say "Orthodox File Manager" is a forced meme by the author of the article. (Note that he links to his older article, etc.) 20-25 years ago when this kind of file managers were all the rage for power users I was in a Fidonet/Usenet discussion group with the most fanatical of these users, often sysadmins, plugin devs, etc. I don't think "orthodox" was used as a term - sometimes it was used as an epithet, maybe, sor…

Such a pompous name for a nice thing.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I still have great affection for Midnight Commander, like Norton Commander before it. I used to use the latter to initiate a parallel cable connection to my brother's computer for Doom deathmatches, pretty cool for a file manager. For no good reason, here's a screenshot of both of them running side by side on an iPad, which is a thing you can apparently do these days: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYRYTq6WUAAt_1t?forma…

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Dude, plug that thing in!

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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To me, "canonical" feels more descriptive whereas "orthodox" has a prescriptive connotation. But I'm also ESL, so not sure if that's just me or common in any/all English-speaking countries.

They're both derived from religious terms or religious metaphors. For me (native U.S. English speaker) the religious reference in "orthodox" is more transparent and that in "canonical" is more obscure, so "canonical" sounds more technical or more neutral somehow.

Agreed, but "canon law" has always meant church law. Canonical is derived from that, and it's got similar connotations of "reference design" as the use of "orthodox" here.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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Been using MC for over 20 years (and NC before it). Still haven't found a better file manager (GUI or TUI), and I've tried many. I even use it on my Mac.

I use it for SCP and S3 file management too (first mounting the folder using sshfs or goofys).

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I still love FAR Manager: https://www.farmanager.com/screenshots.php?l=en (UNIX port: https://github.com/elfmz/far2l ). It now even supports true keyboard reporting (through Kitty TTY protocol on compatible terminals) for SSH connections.

the best norton commander of all

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I never used MC (not very much into TUIs) but ages ago I wrote a graphical file manager in the same vein. For me the inspiration came from Directory Opus [1] on the Amiga, which was just awesome. When GTK+ was released in the late 90s, combining my love of C programming with a newfound home in Linux and GTK+'s ability to make complicated graphical interfaces resulted in a dual-pane file manager. It was a great projec…

Funny that it is still available for Windows and costs 60 USD. I wonder who buys such software nowadays.

Me. I like it, so I pay for it. And there's plenty of time between major releases so it's not like I'm rebuying it yearly.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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> every fraction of a second matters That was not true otherwise you wouldn't get stuck with the most unergonomic keys mandating moving your hands off their resting place. > selecting all files ... : one flick of the right hand The common Ctrl+A is better, no flick, just shifting a single thumb > F6 with the left hand followed by another Enter immediately with the right hand Or still same single hand Ctrl+Shift+X (or…

> the most unergonomic keys mandating moving your hands off their resting place Touch typists always have to get their dig in. I've been using vim for 5 years now and still use up/dn/lf/rt - it's easier to find in a tactile manner with the right keyboard and makes MUCH more sense to the brain than hjkl. It's like 80ms travel, worst case. Even the gaming community got this more correct with wasd, in terms of key posit…

gaming defaulted to wasd because you only use one hand.

hjkl makes a ton of sense considering the j key on all keyboards has a tactile feel, it is way easier than arrows which are a whole lot more than 80ms travel for the move + finding the home row again.

but you're probably just rage baiting

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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> you can't get better than Dolphin Try https://krusader.org >. Same KDE underpinnings, but orthodox interface.

I used Krusader for years, then (after installing Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu) I discovered Double Commander ( https://github.com/doublecmd/doublecmd ), which is also free software, but more cross-platform (and developed using Free Pascal/Lazarus, which makes it old-fashioned in even more ways - it even used to be hosted on SourceForge, but it looks like they moved to GitHub now).

I just tried it now. Any way to get it to not show all of my docker volumes as disk drives above the panes? There's hardly any room for a file-manager below that.
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