How do we know this isn’t just an autonomous vehicle wrapper company?
I don't know that. Perhaps in aggregate, we don't either.
Surely somebody working there would be reading this.
Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas
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in which case I apologise :) I've seen plenty of robotaxi huckers advocate for speed limits 'appropriate for robot response times'
> I've seen plenty of robotaxi huckers advocate for speed limits 'appropriate for robot response times' Where?
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>No consensus on the technology approach Waymo, Cruise, Zoox, Pony.ai, Baidu's Apollo, Argo.ai and Aurora all have/had very similar approaches to the technology. Tesla is the major outlier and they haven't accomplished much in spite of the hype.
I don't want to split hairs but I think the focus on sensors misses the point. There's a lot of diversity in terms of other on-board hardware, software architecture, and the role of geospatial data in the AV system. It's a product area that is very far from being able to horizontalize. Waymo Driver is going to run on Waymo hardware for a long time to come. Toyota is supposedly trying to use Waymo technology for perso…
Tesla employees are using LiDAR in secret to gather training data, because they will get fired by Elon if he finds out. Tesla is in the business of blatant self sabotage.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't want to split hairs but I think the focus on sensors misses the point. There's a lot of diversity in terms of other on-board hardware, software architecture, and the role of geospatial data in the AV system. It's a product area that is very far from being able to horizontalize. Waymo Driver is going to run on Waymo hardware for a long time to come. Toyota is supposedly trying to use Waymo technology for perso…
>There's a lot of diversity in terms of other on-board hardware, software architecture, and the role of geospatial data in the AV system I'm curious to know where you get information on stuff like this. The Google self-driving car project was fairly transparent in the early days but since things have gotten competitive everybody is pretty tight-lipped about the particulars of what they're doing.
There's a lot of information about these systems out there. Waymo has has described in detail how their remote monitoring works. It doesn't rely on perfect connectivity. It doesn't rely on low latency. It can't even steer the vehicle remotely. It can tell the vehicle what it's next move should be. But all of the processing to get it to where the remote monitor thinks it should go is in the vehicle. It's details like this that distinguish between a demo and a product.
I make TikTok's about technology and project management. Elon's management style has been, some might say, a running gag in my videos, so I am more tuned into these topics than your average bear.
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#225I was just in Vegas and saw these rolling around. They seem to have a mix of robotaxis (like the ones pictured) and decked out Toyota Highlanders that look like Waymos but not as well "packaged", though in my personal experience I saw far more of the Highlanders than the custom robotaxis and all of them seemed to have a driver behind the wheel. Vegas is an interesting place to launch IMO (and I believe they only oper…
It may be a maze of roads to the backs of casinos, but it's still a small maze of roads. I would expect the mapping of it to be very precise by now.
What's not precise is road work closures, special event closures, detours due to event parking, random traffic patterns during various times of day and random signal availability for both gps and cellular due to massive buillding and parking garages. The randomness of it all is pretty crazy to me if they figure it out.
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> There are so very many opportunities for a better surface transport system than buses. Dynamic routing and scheduling, capacity somewhere between a city bus and a taxi, and potentially better economies of scale all make this far more appealing than what exists today. Anyone who knows something about transit already knows this is false. the idea has been tried and failed for hundreds of years. What people want is pr…
The Uber Pool, now UberX Share thing was quite good.
For some, but the reports I've seen suggest that for many it was just a cheaper Uber, but customers complained and stopped using it if they actually functioned as a dynamic pool. They could stop for someone who was already on the way, but they could go very far out of the way to pick people up before people complained.
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#227The most useful thing I expect from robotaxis is speed regulations. What's considered normal for humans, driving higher than the speed limits, will not for automatic cars.
I disagree wholeheartedly. I think the most useful thing about robotaxis is that you can count on them to pay attention and react within a given timeframe and that speed limits will either be expanded greatly, eliminated or calculated as a function of the capabilities of the individual hardware in question rather than our best guess as to how an average person would probably react. I'm looking forward to driverless c…
I don't like the idea of them doing 200+ mph anywhere near me, but the Musk idea of them doing high speeds along dedicated tunnels would be quite cool if they could make it work.
(Musk 6 years ago saying it's happening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8X8NdcV7Wc It hasn't yet of course)
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#228Where is a comprehensive test demonstration and rating by an insurance and federal agency? Utterly disturbing announcements and rollouts like this aren't prominently linked with comprehensive testing videos. "We're a tech company, just trust us" The only thing I like about this is the potential to make Tesla look bad.
If only they had a website https://zoox.com/journal/crash-testing
That's a crash test.
Do you think I care about the people IN the car?
Self-driving is about the safety of the people OUTSIDE of the car.
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I routinely had 8+h drives in the rear-facing seat of my family's circa 1970 Plymouth Satellite station wagon growing up. Completely unsafe, and very boring, but I don't recall barfing. My sister and I would pass the time folding up a piece of paper and each of us got to draw part of a person without seeing what the other had drawn. Sort of like visual madlibs.
> rear-facing seat of my family's circa 1970 Plymouth Satellite station wagon growing up. Completely unsafe, I am curious: Unsafe because a " 1970 Plymouth Satellite" or because "rear-facing seat"?
Both, plus absence of seat belts. Rear facing with no head support is a good way to snap your neck if you are wearing a belt, but because we weren’t, we’d probably be flying forward to the windshield.
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/img/pictonorzw/plymouth/1...
Looking at that picture, I see belts, but I do not recall those belts and suspect they were deeply wedged into the seat and forgotten about.