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Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Ford makes plenty of sedans. It doesn't sell any in Canada or its neighbour. Don't forget that about the other 95% of the people on earth

> Ford makes plenty of sedans Does it? Since they stopped building the Mondeo in Europe they don’t sell any sedans there or in most places I’m aware of. The only Ford sedan I’m aware of in production anywhere is the Chinese-market Ford Mondeo built in a joint venture with Changan.

they discontinued the Ford focus or changed it to an SUV? Shame.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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I know the Cybertruck as a "release" is stretching it, but it technically did release. Prematurely, 100%. But it's out there. The QC on the Cybertruck pretty much shows why they lost their brand power over the years, though. Even when ignoring the politics.

I’m waiting for owners to discover water damage in the equipment under the hood liner: Cybertruck’s lack a scuttle/cowl/gutter [0] to collect and divert water from the bottom of the windshield. Basically every car ever has one, except the Cybertruck. This isn’t a QC problem — it’s just poor design. [0] I’m not sure anyone agrees what it’s called.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they simply solved this problem a different way.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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I think the current Prius PHEV looks much better than any Tesla right now. (It’s a plugin hybrid not a pure EV, of course.)

Putting up with PHEV + ancient Toyota tech vs the looks takes a special person.

Toyota sold the most cars of any auto group in 2024.

They seem to understand the car market.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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The whole EV market is growing and everyone is racing to buy one before incentives run out. The article is framed as a hit piece and even has political statements in it. But here is an exact quote from the article: "Sales of new EVs jumped more than 24% month over month in July to 128,268, according to the Cox data, driven by the looming end of a $7,500 tax credit for EVs and attractive deals. Tesla saw sales rise 7%…

"even has political statements in it" is a wild take. It would be journalistic malpractice to not mention the political context. If your CEO bribes voters to help elect a traitorous pedophile and then personally (and illegally) cuts aid funding directly causing hundreds of thousands of deaths and all of that hurts business, that's something you have to include for context! That's some crazy stuff!

Not to mention promoting full-on white nationalism on Twitter: https://bsky.app/profile/harikunzru.bsky.social/post/3lxrqzm...

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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As the link you provided shows Tesla's revenues have been flat almost 3 years now.

> As the link you provided shows Tesla's revenues have been flat almost 3 years now. 2024: $97.69 B, i.e. +0.95% vs. 2023 2023: $96.77 B, i.e. +18.8% vs. 2022 2022: $81.46 B, i.e. +51.35% vs. 2021 So flat for 1 year (going into 2024) and we don't yet know 2025 numbers, which is less pessimistic than your "almost 3 years flat".

Trailing 3 years meaning last 12 quaters (3×4)

  2022-Q3 $21.5B revenue
  2025-Q2 $22.5b revenue

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Honestly I really think the winning move for the 80% of the market that isnt already in an electric is "This is your current car, but electric".

Electric does make it pretty important that the software is unusually good for a car, though, because the software has to compensate for non-ubiquitous charging infra. Tesla does this very well. There are some quirks around charge scheduling and charge limiting that Tesla does really well too. It's not rocket science but software in most "current cars" is terrible .

This is currently becoming a smaller and smaller problem with charging infra growing fast.

I guess it will become an issue again when "car" becomes synonymous with "EV" and there's a sudden spike in EV registration, but who knows when that tipping point will occur.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Boring lineup, Lack of recent innovation, poor repairability and a CEO who has alienated people on both sides of the political isle. The 1 trillion dollar package the board is offering Musk is a joke. They need to find a new CEO.

The 1 trillion dollar package seems to me a bit like trying to pump a meme stock. Saying he'll get 1 T when the stock is 8 T will encourage people to buy in now when it's a bargain at a 1 T market cap.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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If you follow up on the story, Tesla was cleared of all wrong doing after an investigation. Tesla did sell that number of vehicles, they just were very behind on filing for the incentives, but still within the program guidelines. Once the government announced that the incentives were running low, they filed all of their backlog at once. I love to hate on Elon as much as the next person, but everything was above board…

I think there's something else going on there, although yes, that was the statement. > Tesla’s head of sales for Canada, emphasized in a March 28 letter that the filings followed program guidelines, which allowed post-delivery submissions despite recommendations for pre-delivery assessments. but this alludes to something more: > Despite the clearance, Tesla will still be excluded from future iZEV programs Huh. Why, I…

Why would Tesla have a Head of Sales in a Fake Country (TM)?

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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The model Y is the best selling car in the world, so this statement doesn't really make sense

You already mentioned that 2 minutes ago in the same submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45176460 https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Please consider what your commentary adds to the discussion before posting, repetition detracts from thread quality. Thanks!

Don't see anything about what you mention being in the guidelines at all. Please point out what rule you are referring to. Thanks!

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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I low key have a conspiracy theory that the "1 trillion dollar pay package" is just Tesla PR fluff - smoke and mirrors to steal attention away from the poorly performing cybertruck sales and falling stock. If they spin news with dramatic flair highlighting Musk’s bonkers pay package it's a distraction from Tesla’s more immediate and tangible troubles, political alienation of their buyers and ongoing regulatory and ma…

Seems counterintuitive, no? The first thing I thought of when I saw that pay package being floated was the current state that Tesla is in. That's the primary reason such a package seems so fucking bonkers.

In fairness Musk only gets the payout if he hits various targets, more related to AI than cars.
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