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Re: iPhone dumbphone

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I don't understand why people leave email notifications enabled. There is almost no email I get that needs instant action. The one exception is delivery notifications, so I can retrieve the package immediately, and I used a filter to get notifications just for those.

I leave my email notifications on because I don't get that much email, and most email I get is something I want to read.

I don't read my work email at all unless I am specifically looking for something.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

#222
I did a CRTL+F for "Jamf" in this thread and didn't see it mentioned, but I would say if you're going through the effort of Apple Configurator then it makes sense to go the next mile and get some kind of MDM software that will make future updates and policies easier to apply.

As a bonus, if you're a parent and have kids it'll be very useful for them.

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> Consider email. I still need to have access to email, and I want to have notifications enabled so I don’t miss something truly important. But 90% of the emails I get aren’t important. I was at a talk at FOSDEM this year and they were talking about how most emails now (over 90%) are transactional in nature and not personal. Things like password resets, offers, 2fa, shipping confirmations. This was a lightbulb moment…

If google weren’t such an ass about your data you could download everything and run some queries to see how you should create your rules What is sending you the most emails? What emails did you actually care about? Yes yes, you can do this technically speaking, but good luck actually trying - everything is so slow and old emails with attachments will simply not download - they won’t load even in the UI sometimes For…

I have every gmail email I have ever gotten plus attachments downloaded to my Thunderbird client, it is incorrect to say that Google does not let you access that data. They let you do a full sync and use whatever client you want.

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#224

I have more issues with self control on my computer than on my smartphone. Anyone's got any tips for that one?

What worked for me: working in person with others. I found that it's much harder for me to procrastinate on my laptop when I am working with peers. The repeated focus time on the laptop during work hours 'conditioned' me to use it for work more.

But how much time are you losing to a commute?

I kind of agree with you in a way as I ultimately think that working remote is a bit harder on social health and maybe even physical health of getting out of the house, but in another way I just don't know if I can go back to all the negatives of the office.

I mean, my toilet at home washes my ass with gentle warm water. The work toilet randomly decides to splash toilet water on me with the violent "automatic" flusher after I'm done wiping myself with transparent sandpaper.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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> Consider email. I still need to have access to email, and I want to have notifications enabled so I don’t miss something truly important. But 90% of the emails I get aren’t important. I was at a talk at FOSDEM this year and they were talking about how most emails now (over 90%) are transactional in nature and not personal. Things like password resets, offers, 2fa, shipping confirmations. This was a lightbulb moment…

This is exactly why I pay for hey.com email. Every new address is screened in and I can turn on notifications for specific addresses or domains. I have notifications on just a tiny handful of addresses and it's perfect for me.

I've gone from ignoring my email for weeks at a time and fighting with spam to quickly checking my email every day now.

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I have been doing this exact same thing for about a year, this guy is basically me! I love it so far. One difference with his setup, I also set up my Configurator profile so that I can only navigate to whitelisted websites, and I haven't whitelisted anything. This means I have no browser whatsoever (even the in-app ones, like in Maps or FB Messenger, don't work).

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post #165

> Consider email. I still need to have access to email, and I want to have notifications enabled so I don’t miss something truly important. But 90% of the emails I get aren’t important. I was at a talk at FOSDEM this year and they were talking about how most emails now (over 90%) are transactional in nature and not personal. Things like password resets, offers, 2fa, shipping confirmations. This was a lightbulb moment…

Gmail has ben doing this for years, automatically. And it works very well. I think a lot of people don't know the feature exists, though

This is the main feature I miss from leaving Gmail. 99.9% of email is complete junk not worth ever opening, let alone getting a notification about.

This is probably where I can see the most value from LLMs, the ability to filter all of my emails by urgency without distracting me with notifications from newsletter spam.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If google weren’t such an ass about your data you could download everything and run some queries to see how you should create your rules What is sending you the most emails? What emails did you actually care about? Yes yes, you can do this technically speaking, but good luck actually trying - everything is so slow and old emails with attachments will simply not download - they won’t load even in the UI sometimes For…

I have every gmail email I have ever gotten plus attachments downloaded to my Thunderbird client, it is incorrect to say that Google does not let you access that data. They let you do a full sync and use whatever client you want.

I never said they don’t allow it, they even have something called google takeout actually that makes it a bit easier

Yes, one way of doing this is to turn on an email client and let it run on your computer for hours and hours to download everything

The problem is that unless you’ve done that incrementally since the beginning, going back and doing it now is unreliable. The take process above is your best bet and probably the best you can actually do, but outside of that there’s nothing that works well

I’ve even written gscripts with different approaches to do it and it always ends up petering out no matter how careful I am

Also, I think some attachments are permanently corrupted because my apps, whatever the app, always hangs when I try to download them

Anyway, this could be made a lot easier if they actually wanted to let people do that

If anything, it’d be great if they had a tool to do it to begin with - I’ve had my account for over 20 years now so just downloading everything is no small feat

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail has ben doing this for years, automatically. And it works very well. I think a lot of people don't know the feature exists, though

Gmail's magic algorithms are notoriously unreliable. When they work they work, but when they don't, they really don't. And you won't know, because them not working means you won't get any kind of notification they don't work. I've gotten direct responses sent to my spam. I've gotten emails, WITH ATTACHMENTS, sent to my spam from a known email address. Its a good thing I check my spam. Many (most?) don't.

Seems like most people have just decided that email is for receipts, bills, and spam. And real messages are sent over IM apps where there are no automated messages and everything is worth reading.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

#230
My idea to give my son a dumbed-down phone one day was to only install a terminal on it, and maybe chatgpt. And give him access to a server via tailscale. Then he could do whatever a terminal could do, except without the audiovisual or socialnetworking dopamine fixes. And retain all the basic phone functionality.
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