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Clankers Die on Christmas

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Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#221

I don't think it's that popular to call them clankers. Somebody's trying to make it happen. Like "fetch."

It's a generational thing as well as what sites you frequent.

The term clanker is used very frequently on social media as well as different chat tools, especially as responses to obvious AI Agents and Bots.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#222

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> I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone's autocorrect, or to Siri, or to the forks in their silverware drawer, because that's stupid. > ChatGPT deserves no more or less empathy than a fork does. I agree completely that ChatGPT deserves zero empathy. It can't feel, it can't care, it can't be hurt by your rudeness.…

> So, I'll burn an extra token or two saying "please and thanks" I won't, and I think you're delusional for doing so

Interesting. I wonder if this is exactly an example of what the person you're responding to just now is saying. That being rude to an LLM has normalized that behavior such that you feel comfortable being rude to this person.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Citations eight and nine amuse me. I readily and merrily agree with the articles that deriving slurs from existing racist or homophobic slurs is a problem, and the use of these terms in fashions that mirror actual racial stereotypes (e.g. "clanka") is pretty gross. That said, I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone…

> I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone's autocorrect, or to Siri, or to the forks in their silverware drawer, because that's stupid. > ChatGPT deserves no more or less empathy than a fork does. I agree completely that ChatGPT deserves zero empathy. It can't feel, it can't care, it can't be hurt by your rudeness.…

Hard to not recall a Twilight Zone and even a Night Gallery episode where those cruel to machines were just basically cruel people generally.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#225

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Citations eight and nine amuse me. I readily and merrily agree with the articles that deriving slurs from existing racist or homophobic slurs is a problem, and the use of these terms in fashions that mirror actual racial stereotypes (e.g. "clanka") is pretty gross. That said, I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone…

> I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone's autocorrect, or to Siri, or to the forks in their silverware drawer, because that's stupid. > ChatGPT deserves no more or less empathy than a fork does. I agree completely that ChatGPT deserves zero empathy. It can't feel, it can't care, it can't be hurt by your rudeness.…

I believe there's also some research showing that being nice gets better responses. Given that it's trained on real conversations, and that's how real conversation works, I'm not surprised.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#226
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From the world first robophobe, humano-fascist: Robot Slur Tier List: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoDDWmIWMDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpRRejhgtVI Responding To A Clankerloving Cogsucker on Robot "Racism": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zAIqNpC0I0

JREG is the only Canadian I would accept as a Presidential Candidate for the US, and i don't even agree with half of what he says. I just think he'd do a better job than most.

TBH the bar is on the floor at the moment.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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I feel like it started as a joke, but now people are just using it as a stand-in for racial slurs against Black and brown people, and it's honestly sickening. Like TikToks of people making classically racist jokes about Black people but changing it to "clanker" as a workaround.

Why do people so badly want everything to be about race?

... Because most things involve race?

Like, clanker is the equivalent of a racial slur but for robots. The reason it works and is funny is because we already know what racial slurs are and have a contexr for it.

If racial slurs didn't exist, neither would clanker.

You have to actually think about the world we live in and why things are the way they are. Its a easy to say "just cuz lol", but we're engineers. Nothing happens "just cuz". No, there's a reason.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#228
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You should see how I speak to my table saw.

considering what a table saw is capable of, I advice to treat it with respect. My old father recently reattached the safety guard on his, in order to keep his remaining fingers.

None of the things a table saw is capable of result from being spoken to rudely.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#230
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I feel like it started as a joke, but now people are just using it as a stand-in for racial slurs against Black and brown people, and it's honestly sickening. Like TikToks of people making classically racist jokes about Black people but changing it to "clanker" as a workaround.

It's also used in RL when talking about Waymo or food delivery robots, or when talking about the automaton faction in Helldivers 2.

Helldivers is excessively/satirically facist and xenophobic though, I mean uh, managed democracy, rah rah!
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