If you want to have a laugh:
"I will not accept that it's a highly dangerous road" https://youtu.be/7Qir4EEpawE
How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
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Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
By death per km France, Italy, Slovenia and Croatia are more dangerous then Germany or Switzerland. German Autobahn is crazy and non-pleasant if you drive slow, but in Switzerland everyone follows the speed limit so it is quite relaxing. Also, you seem to struggle with mountainous roads, which depends on the topography and not the country.
Agree, though an intensive one (8500km in 6 weeks) that is just subjective experience, which is why I caveated it mentioning that it was our own family personal experience. I lived in a mountainous area of Italy (very narrow roads, full of ups and downs) so I am a fairly confident driver (probably why I was not too stressed driving in Italy) and drove in countries like India and Iran in the past (so very familiar and…
Not complaining about not having yet another car on the roads here, but your conclusion goes directly against experience of literally every single person living here in Europe for their whole lives that I know. Especially Switzerland, apart from italian-speaking part of Ticino (which is more Italy than Switzerland), people drive well and way above Europe's average. Also Switzerland has 120kmh speed limit, making roads quite a bit safer also due to very frequent stationary radar placements.
But then again we have 0.1% of information to make a good picture of your situation, driving skills and habits, vehicle you moved around and so on. But there is for sure a good reason for such discrepancy, ie driving caravan super slow or similar tiny little detail.
Also you magically skipped few (pretty horrible to drive) countries if you had a road trip that covered Greece.
Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#223I wonder if there will be a reversal in pedestrian deaths with the rise in larger cars. I live in a large UK city and it is mad the number of SUVs you see driving around.
Is the rise in SUVs about (displaying/increasing) social status? I am curious why people in the UK "need" SUVs. In many areas of the US, having a huge car is about social status.
Poor driving skills rather than social status. But who of those brilliant folks would admit that even to themselves. Also suvs are not some expensive car category, you can find dirt cheap (and crappy as suvs in general anyway are) ones.
Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
because sometimes you unplug it and leave it around. unless you live like a king sometimes there is 2 sockets and you have 5 devices to plug at different times. european and other ones will be on the side so stepping on it is no problem but uk ones will be the pointy end up
You're leaving lengths of strong flexible wire lying around places where you walk and are worried you might get hurt? Uh, yeah!
I don't worry about it:) I'm not in UK
Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#225A more enlightening chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in...
per capita is a bit weird, maybe people in the UK don't drive as much.
Less than in the US, but I imagine similar to the other European countries.
One thing that is not being discussed is that cars have become a lot wafer - for both people in the car and for pedestrians they might hit.
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#226Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate driving on these roads. I just refuse to drive a speed where I can’t stop if there’s someone in the road on a blind corner - call me an idiot and beep your horn at me if you want.
On paper that's perfectly fine. In practice there seems to be a ton of correlation between people who say things like that and people who think their Fiat 500 stops like a garbage truck.
Funniest thing I've heard a kid say all month. My colleague's 7 year old daughter to him:
D: "Dad why does everyone honk at mom when she drive's us to school?"
F: "Because she drives too slow sometimes."
D: "Why doesn't she speed up?"
F: "I don't know. She's always been like that."
D: "I tried saying people are waiting for us to go [referring to a pretty benign yield right-on-red near their house]."
F: "How'd that go?"
D: "She didn't listen!"
I don't know why but it was absolutely hysterical to me. Kids are precious.
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
No actually on that metric Montana is one of the most dangerous and Massachusetts is one of the safest.
> Massachusetts is one of the safest For those unaware, Boston (largest city in Massachusetts) has a reputation for incredibly aggressive drivers (so does New York City). Is Massachusetts relatively safer because it has so few freeways? I find it hard to believe this can be explained by "quality of drivers". Another idea: Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths…
>Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths.
The Karen Read trial was illustrative about how seriously Massachusetts law enforcement takes DUI.
Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#229Just back from a 8500+km road trip (car, wife, and two kids 6 and 1) around Europe where we visited 9 countries (UK, Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Slovenia, Croatia, Greece). For us as a family, France and UK had the safest and more relaxing roads. Italy was OK compared to the usual standard, Slovenia and Croatia had highways with too many slopes but people drive carefully. The ones where we struggled…
By death per km France, Italy, Slovenia and Croatia are more dangerous then Germany or Switzerland. German Autobahn is crazy and non-pleasant if you drive slow, but in Switzerland everyone follows the speed limit so it is quite relaxing. Also, you seem to struggle with mountainous roads, which depends on the topography and not the country.
>German Autobahn is crazy and non-pleasant if you drive slow, but in Switzerland everyone follows the speed limit so it is quite relaxing
The German situation seems vastly superior on the basis that whoever is the "odd one out" or violating the norms should be the one having a bad time. Basically incentivizing homogenous and/or predictable traffic flow, which is safer.
Re: How Britain built some of the world’s safest roads
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Massachusetts is one of the safest For those unaware, Boston (largest city in Massachusetts) has a reputation for incredibly aggressive drivers (so does New York City). Is Massachusetts relatively safer because it has so few freeways? I find it hard to believe this can be explained by "quality of drivers". Another idea: Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths…
>Maybe local police are very, very strict about drink/driving, thus reducing the number of deaths. The Karen Read trial was illustrative about how seriously Massachusetts law enforcement takes DUI.
How is the Read trial relevant here? Karen Read was accused of intentionally running John O'Keefe over because she was angry at him.