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Re: Take something you don’t like and try to like it

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Post by grues-dinner »

dnissley wrote: post #208

No one is proposing a list that is tailored to the HN audience? That people should try to like? Here's a start: - Ads - Regulations - Trump - The EU - Social Media - Musk - AI - Venture Capital - Unions - Peter Thiel - China - Cryptocurrency - The United States - Zuck - Taxes - Big Tech - Recommendation Algorithms - Billionaires - Google Search IMO it's a good sign if you can think of something to appreciate in all o…

I think all those things just go to show that if you take anything to an extreme, it becomes a problem, especially if you do so in order to extract maximum money from it.

"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison."

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Post by rypskar »

Chris2048 wrote: post #210
rypskar wrote: post #202

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It would be great if there was accurate tests for allergies. Blood tests shows what you absolute should stay away from, you maybe should be careful with, and what to do more testing with. Then there are different tests to learn more, but in the end they end of with learn to read your body's reaction and stay away from things you react badly to. And yes, this have made me a picky eater, not because I don't want to try…

AFAIK skin prick tests are the best for contact allergies, blood tests unlikely to find anything but severe allergies. and I'm not sure how to find mild food allergies directly, seems to be all food diaries and correlation which feels mostly useless.. There also seems to be a hair test that AFAI can tell is an outright scam.

The problem with blood tests in my experience is all the false positives, skin prick tests are often used based on result from blood tests. But when having many allergies it is normal to only check for the most severe using skin prick tests.

Food diaries are probably good for those that are more experimental in what they eat, the difficult part come when it is a combination of things that give a reaction. The most important is to learn to listen to your body and not buy into peer pressure when someone urge you to try something new that you are not sure about

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Post by spauldo »

carlosjobim wrote: post #207
spauldo wrote: post #148

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You must be in a very different part of the world than I am. One with grand cathedrals, perhaps. Where I'm from, a church is usually a big box with a brick facade, glass doors, paint over drywall interiors, and fake wood trim. Outside of the decorations, they're much like office buildings. They generally have a small steeple somewhere that holds no bell and only serves to identify the building as a church, because ot…

Everywhere in the world, it's normal for churches and temples to be either the oldest, the largest, or the most beautiful buildings. Or all of those. But of course not always.

150 years ago, the buildings where I live were made of wood or sod and there were no cities. Fifty years before that, there were no buildings at all. The native people lived in tents, followed the buffalo herds, and the sky was their temple.

The churches that have been built since were built by denominations that place less value in visual and architectural art than, for example, the Catholic or Orthodox churches. The single Catholic church in my town does look nicer than the others, although the inside looks just as fake as everything built since the 1950s.

I have visited the church at Rota and the cathedral at Càdiz, and they are beautiful. We do not have churches like these where I live. But it wouldn't matter if we did. It is neither the blandness of my churches or the beauty of yours that cause me to dislike the church, but the way the church is used to spread hate for people who are different than them.

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Post by arp242 »

vova_hn wrote: post #160
arp242 wrote: post #93

"Taste" is such a funny concept: - A few weeks ago I looked up some music from my youth: Korn, Deftones, System of a Down, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Slayer, Testament, Iced Earth. I played much of this to death back in the day. And ... I found I don't really care for much for most of it now. I also no longer care much for the "Trash metal classics" I liked at the time such as Testament, Slayer, and Iced Earth.…

> I played much of this to death back in the day. Maybe that's the reason? I found that any song or piece of music gets less and less exciting the more you listen to it. In fact, when I find something really cool I often force myself not to listen to it too much so that it would last longer.

Nah, that's not it. We're talking about a 20+ year of not listening to it here, and to be honest I barely remembered lots of it. Plus, there's plenty of other music that I've played to death over the years that I still like (not as exciting as when it was new of course).

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Post by nathan_douglas »

navbaker wrote: post #136
nathan_douglas wrote: post #77

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Not OP, but I was also replying and had thoughts along a similar vein. I'm 44 and have had countless hobbies over my adolescent and adult lives. Some I've taken up multiple times, some I've visited multiple variations on a core idea (e.g. aquariums/planted tanks/dwarf shrimp tanks). I've learned (and subseqeuntly forgotten) a tremendous amount, and spent an unholy amount of money. Most things have not stayed with me.…

> the product occupies little space and it's trivial to keep around Haha, I have found this to absolutely NOT be the case! Each individual mini only takes up and inch or so, but they multiply and between them and the brushes/airbrush/paint racks and the ever-increasing grey Pile of Shame, it’s not a small amount of space taken up! It is an extremely rewarding hobby with a low bar to entry, though, and I agree that I…

Hahaha, yes. Very true. I meant each individual mini is small. Yeah, my Zenithal-primed Pile of Shame occupies several square feet of wall and shelf space.

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Post by brailsafe »

jajko wrote: post #185
brailsafe wrote: post #117

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I think this is in-part the beauty of a certain type of travel in general, which if you do it before you form too many rigid biases, eventually sets a person apart from their grade school peers who just went full-send on their hometown or whatever. It's totally cliche, but if you just set yourself up to be forced to try and explore and enjoy different geographies, cities, food, or meet types of people you'd otherwise…

Travel far and outside of comfort zone changes person, any person, for good. Prophet Mohammed is quoted roughly saying: "Don't tell me how educated you are, tell me how much you have travelled". There are non-trivial amount of people who discovered this on their own, got properly addicted and basically live in their western jobs to be able to afford as much travel ie in remote parts of south east Asia as possible. So…

> There are non-trivial amount of people who discovered this on their own, got properly addicted and basically live in their western jobs to be able to afford as much travel ie in remote parts of south east Asia as possible.

I think it's a tricky balance, because the novelty can wear off, and by travelling all the time you do end up trading the other crucial component of life away for that novelty, which is some kind of roots and some kind of community.

Exploration and adventure is amazing, you can learn a lot about other cultures, but by not participating in your own nearly as much, you can end up ironically limiting yourself to shallow transient connections, depending on when and how long you do it for and where.

Atm I have basically zero interest anymore in living abroad for an extended time unless it offered me some unique environment for doing the outdoor stuff or other hobbies I enjoy, such that I'd be compelled away from my adopted home city that I'm quite fond of. But other than that, shorter travels that my outdoor hobbies direct me towards are usually amazing. So something like an extended backcountry hiking or climbing trip would be the type of thing that would excite me.

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Post by palata »

spauldo wrote: post #223
carlosjobim wrote: post #207

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Everywhere in the world, it's normal for churches and temples to be either the oldest, the largest, or the most beautiful buildings. Or all of those. But of course not always.

150 years ago, the buildings where I live were made of wood or sod and there were no cities. Fifty years before that, there were no buildings at all. The native people lived in tents, followed the buffalo herds, and the sky was their temple. The churches that have been built since were built by denominations that place less value in visual and architectural art than, for example, the Catholic or Orthodox churches. Th…

> but the way the church is used to spread hate for people who are different than them.

I am not religious at all, but disliking the church because it speads hate is like disliking white persons (or whichever arbitrary criterium you want) because they are criminals: the reality is that only a minority speads hate and only a minority are criminals. A majority of religious people are good and want to do good. And it doesn't require religion to spread hate, far from it.

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Post by godshatter »

vintermann wrote: post #211

I see two (really just one) reasons to try to learn to like something you currently don't. The first one, and the only real one, is to get closer to other people. Someone you like, who you want to understand, and maybe more like. Someone it's worth becoming at least a slightly different person for, in terms of how you approach the world. The second reason is boredom. It's actually just the first reason in disguise. B…

I'd throw brain plasticity in there. I'm worried about this given my age (getting close to 60) and I will sometimes bounce off of a song or a TV show or a movie or a book immediately and then force myself to go through it and see if it really is that bad or not. Sometimes it is, but often there's stuff to like if you're looking for it even in the worst of it's kind.

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Post by freetime2 »

colechristensen wrote: post #151
freetime2 wrote: post #146

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> I don’t drink coffee because in a month I’ll be neck deep in forums about the proper way to grind beans. This was me last week. I was looking to buy a new coffee grinder, and I just could not believe the way that people on the Internet talk about these things. One popular coffee YouTuber recommended a $200 hand grinder as an entry level grinder [1]. There's also a widely repeated concept in the community of the "en…

Coffee is an example, but there are plenty of others: There's a pretty basic problem that a coffee grinder is a motor, the actual grinding surfaces, and the tubes that connect where the beans come from and grounds go to. Maybe add a scale and a little bit of electronics, but still, what does a $1000 grinder have that a $200 doesn't? Indeed you have to get a lot of things precisely right to get a desired grind particl…

> Coffee grinders are ripe for disruption with a low cost high quality product, but in order to pay for the engineering time to make one you have to have confidence in pretty high volume so picking a price point is hard.

It sounds like a Chinese company has kind of done this with the D40+, DF54 [1], DF64, and DF83 grinders, available at price points from $200 to $800. They are white label products sold under various brand names like Turin, MiiCoffee, etc all over the world. If reviews are to be believed, they have a good grind quality in addition to nice quality of life features like very little retention, static electricity, replaceable parts, etc.

The $200 - $250 range is still probably too expensive for most homes, but definitely not out of line for a high quality kitchen appliance.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbL0olOitJg

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Post by dripdry45 »

j_bum wrote: post #147
freetime2 wrote: post #146

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> I don’t drink coffee because in a month I’ll be neck deep in forums about the proper way to grind beans. This was me last week. I was looking to buy a new coffee grinder, and I just could not believe the way that people on the Internet talk about these things. One popular coffee YouTuber recommended a $200 hand grinder as an entry level grinder [1]. There's also a widely repeated concept in the community of the "en…

I am a calm coffee (espresso) snob. I love the basic, and I love the fine. Believe it or not, expensive grinders (~$500 range) create an unbelievable difference. But they’re a luxury :) Lance Hedrick (popular coffee YouTuber) demonstrates time and time again that cheap machines and setups can rival even the most expensive end-game setups.

The first part of your post and second part seem to contradict each other; please explain.
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