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Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by zac23or »

gloosx wrote: post #145
makeitdouble wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the most common complaint against Slack that it's not optimized enough for what it does ? That's how I read the rants against its electron app, and people are already choosing the electron app against using it straight in the browser (as they'd do for Gmail or Calendar for instance)

Slack is one the most slick and pleasant pieces of software to use. It's big success as well as the fact that it's acquisition cost was one of the largest software deals ever – tells of itself – it's certainly a fine piece of software made by fine engineers who used react and electron with a certain amount of dignity. People who rant about tools like react or electron affecting their performance just don't want to un…

> Slack is one the most slick and pleasant pieces of software to use

I've never heard anyone say that before!

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by culi »

bapak wrote: post #202
adithyassekhar wrote: post #95

This thread has really opened my eyes to how much the world hates react developers, I am one. Unrealistic timelines, implementing what should be backend logic in frontend, there's a bunch of ways SPA's tend to be a trap. Was react a bad idea? Can anyone point to a single well made react app?

After having worked on React for a while, I can tell you that the problem remains between monitor and chair. React can have all the niceties and optimization in the world, but that fails when its users insist on using it incorrectly, building huge tangled messy components and then wondering why a click takes 1.3 seconds to deliver feedback.

As someone who's worked with React professionally for years, it's honestly shocking how few React developers really understand memoization and when it needs to be used

IMO it's the MAIN thing to understand about React—how it renders.

Regardless, now I'm the one with egg on my face since the new compiler promises to eventually remove the need for manual memoization almost entirely. The "almost" still fills me with fear

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by ponector »

slt2021 wrote: post #116
Zanfa wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m pretty sure they used to do syntax highlighting on the server before and it was fast. Now they send down unhighlighted text that seems to choke the browser with anything but the smallest diffs.

the problem is developers having fast modern machines. if they were forced to use slow machines, they would not be able to put out crap like that

Only in the ideal world, where developers test results of their work on their machines. Test for real, with real db, not with empty or mocks.

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by pxc »

bjclark wrote: post #210
PedroBatista wrote: post #11

The Github website is slow everywhere. It is truly a piece of shit software both in terms of performance but also UX/UI and everything in between. It's a product of many cooks and their brilliant ideas and KPIs, a social network for devs and code being the most "brilliant" of them all. For day to day dev operations is something so mediocre even Gitlab looks like the golden standard compared to Github. And no, the pro…

Have you used gitlab every day in anger? I don't think you'd feel the same if you have.

There's things I don't like about it, and there are a looot of long-standing open issues, but I think GitLab is definitely better than GitHub in a number of ways. My org uses both (and also Azure DevOps, joy) and my team expects that the trend will be migrating from GitLab to GitHub. There are a bunch of things for me to grieve in that, much to my own surprise.

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by LilBytes »

treve wrote: post #212
dham wrote: post #115

Everything is slower across every single facet of computing. Something is happening. I have a brand new Mac Studio M4 Max with 64gb of ram and every site is still slower than it was on a 2011 Mac Book Pro.

Web developers should be forced to use hardware that's roughly at the 10th percentile in performance of their user base, not the 90th. Alternatively, make performance a WCAG concern.

I don't think this would help, if a site or SPA performs terribly on a high end machine, the only conclusion I can draw is performance testing isn't tested or validated at all.

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by pxc »

hk1337 wrote: post #122
PedroBatista wrote: post #94

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Is your deployment SaaS or running on your company servers? Gitlab is anything but light, by default tends to be slow, but surprisingly fast with a good server ( nothing crazy, but big ) and caching.

It's probably not related to the speed and I am not entirely certain how Github stores the repository but I noticed Gitlab does something weird to the bare repository so it's not directly usable as a bare repository. Gitea is an example I like because it stores the repository as a bare repository, the same as if I did git clone --bare. I bring it up because when I stopped running Gitea, I could easily go in to the da…

GitLab and GitHub both use custom storage backends for git for reasons of scale.

GitLab: https://docs.gitlab.com/administration/gitaly/praefect/

GitHub: https://github.blog/engineering/infrastructure/stretching-sp...

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by adithyassekhar »

culi wrote: post #222
bapak wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After having worked on React for a while, I can tell you that the problem remains between monitor and chair. React can have all the niceties and optimization in the world, but that fails when its users insist on using it incorrectly, building huge tangled messy components and then wondering why a click takes 1.3 seconds to deliver feedback.

As someone who's worked with React professionally for years, it's honestly shocking how few React developers really understand memoization and when it needs to be used IMO it's the MAIN thing to understand about React—how it renders. Regardless, now I'm the one with egg on my face since the new compiler promises to eventually remove the need for manual memoization almost entirely. The "almost" still fills me with fea…

Is there a good article or something you could point us younglings to? I get that in react almost everything is reactive by default unlike other frameworks. I tend to add useCallback and memo to everything nowadays.

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by EPWN3D »

gloosx wrote: post #145
makeitdouble wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the most common complaint against Slack that it's not optimized enough for what it does ? That's how I read the rants against its electron app, and people are already choosing the electron app against using it straight in the browser (as they'd do for Gmail or Calendar for instance)

Slack is one the most slick and pleasant pieces of software to use. It's big success as well as the fact that it's acquisition cost was one of the largest software deals ever – tells of itself – it's certainly a fine piece of software made by fine engineers who used react and electron with a certain amount of dignity. People who rant about tools like react or electron affecting their performance just don't want to un…

Slack is the best of a bunch of trash options. That doesn't make it good. I shouldn't be able to accidentally select every widget in an app as though it were text. But with Electron apps, that's just normal.

Slack puts a nicer shade of lipstick on the pig than Teams does, but the lips still belong to the same thing.

Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari

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Post by illusive4080 »

bjclark wrote: post #210
PedroBatista wrote: post #11

The Github website is slow everywhere. It is truly a piece of shit software both in terms of performance but also UX/UI and everything in between. It's a product of many cooks and their brilliant ideas and KPIs, a social network for devs and code being the most "brilliant" of them all. For day to day dev operations is something so mediocre even Gitlab looks like the golden standard compared to Github. And no, the pro…

Have you used gitlab every day in anger? I don't think you'd feel the same if you have.

I use GitLab daily and feel like it’s a joy to use. What do you dislike?
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