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The MiniPC Revolution

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Re: The MiniPC Revolution

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Intel chips dominate this space (with a far better price per GHz ratio than ARM or RISC-V); sad to see their slow downfall. Agree with others that you need active cooling to avoid premature burnout.

Its funny that Intel is the supplier of choice for cheap Chinese mini pcs, how the mighty have fallen.

While we laugh, Intel keeps getting money, yeah really funny.

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I want one for gaming , that is silent, provides high end graphics, and takes little space ( Mac mini or studio size ideally ). I’m essentially willing to pay extra for a specced up gaming console. I still haven’t been able to find something that fits the bill - the hardest part to get information on is noise, since most people don’t seem to care about it or just play with headphones. I understand that such a product…

Linus the Tech Tip man has all his gaming PCs in a rack in his basement and runs a specific kind of KVM to the gaming room. I think it was a fiber connection?

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Has anyone here managed to get USB4 networking (USB4NET) working with an AMD mini PC (specifically ones from Minisforum)? I'd love to have a 40Gbps backlink for a Ceph cluster.

I am doing this between two UM890 Pros. It was easy to set up and I have had no issues over many months, but I "only" get ~11.6 Gbps between them. This seems to match other reports e.g. https://fangpenlin.com/posts/2024/01/14/high-speed-usb4-mesh...

Perfect, thank you!

That link has pretty much all the info I was after. Pity it doesn't reach anywhere close to the theoretical speeds though, but hey at least it's better than 10GbE. :)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Valves big misstep with the Steam Machines was that they expected developers to port their games over to Linux natively, on their own dime. Needless to say that didn't end up happening at any significant scale, so when they resurrected SteamOS they refocused on Windows binary compatibility through Proton instead.

And this will hit them very hard, the day Microsoft decides they had enough of Proton, they are already slowly waking up for it.

What do you think Microsoft will/can do to sabotage Proton?

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> Cheap and Replaceable We must be looking into different kinds of MiniPCs, because I don't consider 300 euros cheap, and those models are a joke in specs. To have something usable it is more like reaching the 500 euros. Also I don't want replaceable, I want repairable. Last year I had to throw one away that barely worked, and I am not getting one ever again.

What brand/model was your one? (So that we can avoid)

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this will hit them very hard, the day Microsoft decides they had enough of Proton, they are already slowly waking up for it.

What do you think Microsoft will/can do to sabotage Proton?

Basically Valve are doing with Steam OS and Proton against Windows, the same thing that Google did with Chrome against Internet Explorer. Microsoft's usual tactic with Embrace Extend Extinguish isn't working with Edge, as Chrome just has great development velocity and market entrenchment and distribution. Crossing my fingers that Valve will pull off the same thing. In the gaming market Valve have great distribution and they are strong developers, so maybe.

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>I don’t think it makes sense to call the Steam Machine a misstep because there was no Proton. There would be no Proton nor Steam Deck without the ground work started with the Steam Machines. I’ve written before about how I think the Steam Deck is one of the best v1 products in recent memory, in large part because Valve learned so much (and so well) from the failures of the Steam Machines. I don’t know if I would cal…

I have a Steam Machine, one of the Alienware ones. You're completely correct. SteamOS as shipped on those machines sucked. The controllers sucked. The PC hardware wasn't bad and could play games alright but the experience sucked. I made it into a Linux desktop I used for years and it worked much better for that than as a dedicated games console. But the SteamDeck very plainly incorporated lessons learned from Steam M…

But all the update you like in your SteamDeck also came to the Steam Machines plus nice remote play on your local network. You couldn’t see because you stopped using it as an actual Steam Machine. I personally deeply disagree about the controller too.

Personally, for such an early and unlikely product, I don’t view it as a failure at all. They ironed everything they had to using the platform as a stepping stone.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this will hit them very hard, the day Microsoft decides they had enough of Proton, they are already slowly waking up for it.

What do you think Microsoft will/can do to sabotage Proton?

First of all they can make it easier option for OEMs go for Windows/XBox handhelds and thus push SteamDeck out of market, by making it a niche device only a minority cares about, netbooks attack plan style, which they are starting now.

They can also introduce Windows/DirectX APIs that Proton will have a hard time copying, by requiring additional hardware or subsystem features not easily copyable.

They can let their legal team have some fun.

Finally, companies don't last forever, and I am betting as the 2nd most valuable company in the planet, Microsoft will outlive Steam's current management and eventually deal with the problem in another way.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

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> Cheap and Replaceable We must be looking into different kinds of MiniPCs, because I don't consider 300 euros cheap, and those models are a joke in specs. To have something usable it is more like reaching the 500 euros. Also I don't want replaceable, I want repairable. Last year I had to throw one away that barely worked, and I am not getting one ever again.

What brand/model was your one? (So that we can avoid)

Replied in another thread, Gigabyte Brix, more precisely Barebone GB-BRR5H-4500.
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