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Reminder that OpenAI is an American company whose headstart is attributed to stealing copyrighted material from everyone else. Without the huge theft, they'd be nowhere.
Last I checked, as it concerns the training of their models, all legal challenges are pending. No theft has yet been proven, as they used publicly available data.
DeepSeek-v3.1
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Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
#222It’s a very smart move for DeepSeek to put out an Anthropic-compatible API, similar to Kimi-k2, GLM4.5 (Puzzled as to why Qwen didn’t do this). You can set up a simple function in your .zhsrc to run Claude-Code with these models: https://github.com/pchalasani/claude-code-tools/tree/main?ta...
I'm not confident enough to say it's as good as claude opus or even sonnet, but it seems not bad!
I did run into an api error when my context exceeded deepseek's 128k window and had to manually compact the context.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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I maintain a cross-platform llama.cpp client - you're right to point out that generally we expect nuking logits can take care of it. There is a substantial performance cost to nuking, the open source internals discussion may have glossed over that for clarity (see github.com/llama.cpp/... below). The cost is very high, default in API* is not artificially lower other logits, and only do that if the first inference att…
This is a basic question but maybe you can help: what is a good resource to use to understand how to take advantage of logits?
For OpenAI, you can just pass in the json_schema to activate it, no library needed. For direct LLM interfacing you will need to host your own LLM or use a cloud provider that allows you too hook in, but someone else may need to correct me on this.
If anyone is using anything other than Outlines, please let us know.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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Where would you go to find people posting their AI generated fiction? I haven't been able to find it on Reddit
AO3 has several tags for it.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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Can you contrast this with Western companies? What are the Chinese companies stealing that Western companies aren’t? Do you mean tech or content?
Ethics of Chinese vs. Western companies? Everything. I'm sure you're aware of how many hundreds of $billions of American IP are stolen by Chinese companies.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminder that OpenAI is an American company whose headstart is attributed to stealing copyrighted material from everyone else. Without the huge theft, they'd be nowhere.
Last I checked, as it concerns the training of their models, all legal challenges are pending. No theft has yet been proven, as they used publicly available data.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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if you are running a 2bit quant, you are not giving up performance but gaining 100% performance since the alternative is usually 0%. Smaller quants are for folks who won't be able to run anything at all, so you run the largest you can run relative to your hardware. I for instance often ran Q3_K_L, I don't think of how much performance I'm giving up, but rather how without Q3, I won't be able to run it at all. With th…
That's true only in a vacuum. For example, should I run gpt-oss-20b unquantized or gpt-oss-120b quantaized? Some models have a 70b/30b spread, and that's only across a single base model, where many different models exist at different quants could be compared for different tasks.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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They're not mutually exclusive. Lots of terrible and mismanaged governments rely on genius short-term economic exploitation, like Syria, Iran, India, Korea, etc. What would be incredible is China sticking the landing to a third-sector economy. Plenty of countries have industrialized over the past century, only a handful became true service economies.
You can only become a service economy by outsourcing everything to another country. It's not a sustainable model and it's related to imperialism.
Re: DeepSeek-v3.1
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Ethics of Chinese vs. Western companies? Everything. I'm sure you're aware of how many hundreds of $billions of American IP are stolen by Chinese companies.
I’m not asking broadly about difference in ethics. I’m asking specifically about IP theft in the AI space.