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Re: Newsmax agrees to pay $67M in defamation case over bogus 2020 election claims

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Post by UmGuys »

lesuorac wrote: post #43
ilovecurl wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During Dominion's case against Fox News around this same issue Fox News' own lawyers stated that they were not stating actual facts about the topics under discussion and instead were engaged in exaggeration and non-literal commentary. It's not news, it's infotainment.

Lawyers would tell you that water isn't wet it's just slick if it'd help them win their case. I don't see any fix for the news cycle besides slowing it down. Even if enough happens to fill 24h in a day there isn't enough time to actually analyze it at all.

I don't think you understand. It's not news, but entertainment. Unbiased news is: AP, Reuters, CSPAN.

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Post by UmGuys »

cj wrote: post #95
lesuorac wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lawyers would tell you that water isn't wet it's just slick if it'd help them win their case. I don't see any fix for the news cycle besides slowing it down. Even if enough happens to fill 24h in a day there isn't enough time to actually analyze it at all.

> Lawyers would tell you that water isn't wet Sure, but do you really think the Fox News anchors honestly believed what they were saying? I’d venture a guess: no. They said what they said because that’s what they had to do to get their paycheck at the end of the day. Yes, lawyers will say whatever to win a case. But I highly doubt those news anchors really thought the election was stolen. It’s all for ratings. Let’s…

Do actors believe their lines? This makes no sense.

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Post by mandeepj »

Nursie wrote: post #212
RajT88 wrote: post #184

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I have one conservative friend who insists she is stupid and has none of her own opinions (just a mini-Biden). Mind boggling indeed.

> has none of her own opinions (just a mini-Biden) She did mess up an opportunity to show that she wasn't just Biden v2 in an interview at some point, when asked what she might have done differently, there was nothing she could think of. Nothing at all. That was an open goal to differentiate that she missed. But I'm not sure it would have made a difference.

> But I'm not sure it would have made a difference.

If she’d have given an eloquent response, at least she’d have escaped the damage she had got onto herself by saying nothing or no change.

She could have handled similar to how JD handled 2020 election integrity or peaceful transfer questions.

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Post by Gud »

UmGuys wrote: post #220
Gud wrote: post #211

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The democrats were rerunning Joe Biden as their candidate when he was obviously unfit mentally while they were claiming he was. They were also lying.

Um. Tr*mp is the most unhinged and stupid person. He's never been able to form a coherent sentence and can only exist because he was born a millionaire. I always thought Biden was much smarter, well spoken, and honest than Tr*mp. Do you disagree?

The democrats ran with and lied about Joe Biden. That is why you now have an unhinged narcissist running the show.

Re: Newsmax agrees to pay $67M in defamation case over bogus 2020 election claims

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Post by UmGuys »

Gud wrote: post #225
UmGuys wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um. Tr*mp is the most unhinged and stupid person. He's never been able to form a coherent sentence and can only exist because he was born a millionaire. I always thought Biden was much smarter, well spoken, and honest than Tr*mp. Do you disagree?

The democrats ran with and lied about Joe Biden. That is why you now have an unhinged narcissist running the show.

I disagree. We have Tr*mp because his team is able to successfully motivate angry, hateful, and scared people. There are a lot of these people, they are not smart, and they are mad. MAGA directs that anger. They simply figured out how to enthrall bad people.

Re: Newsmax agrees to pay $67M in defamation case over bogus 2020 election claims

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Post by UmGuys »

Gud wrote: post #225
UmGuys wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um. Tr*mp is the most unhinged and stupid person. He's never been able to form a coherent sentence and can only exist because he was born a millionaire. I always thought Biden was much smarter, well spoken, and honest than Tr*mp. Do you disagree?

The democrats ran with and lied about Joe Biden. That is why you now have an unhinged narcissist running the show.

Additionally, we didn't prosecute the ring leader of the Jan. 6 insurrection. We need to finish reconstruction and punish the people who spread hate, fear, and anger. We can only grow divided otherwise.

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Post by yread »

whatsupdog wrote: post #4

Unpopular opinion: Paper ballots with in person voting (with an ID) is the only 100% fool proof and verifiable voting system. Everything else could be manipulated or hacked. And when there's trillions of dollars and world power on the line, it's just a matter of time when the "could be" turns to "would be".

Sure, give everyone a free ID, that's easy to pick up, let people vote over 2-3 days, one of them a public holiday and make sure there are enough polling stations everywhere (not just red districts)

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Post by ethbr1 »

platevoltage wrote: post #207
dragonwriter wrote: post #186

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> As for the second term, we can’t forget that the Democrats basically threw the election. This election was a layup. An easy win. Good case for that in 2016, sure. 2024, not at all.

When you’re marching one of the most hated republicans in the country around on stage pretending like it’s going to get you more votes, while kicking one of the most popular left-wing online voices out of your convention, I understand why people would get this impression. Dems would rather lose than cede any power at all to the left flank of the party.

The left flank of the party is the problem. Democrats would win more elections if they focused on economic issues.

Re: Newsmax agrees to pay $67M in defamation case over bogus 2020 election claims

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Post by Gud »

UmGuys wrote: post #226
Gud wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The democrats ran with and lied about Joe Biden. That is why you now have an unhinged narcissist running the show.

I disagree. We have Tr*mp because his team is able to successfully motivate angry, hateful, and scared people. There are a lot of these people, they are not smart, and they are mad. MAGA directs that anger. They simply figured out how to enthrall bad people.

Ok, I have a lot more faith in democratic processes.

I fundamentally disagree with how the USA is run. I believe it needs to be dismantled and increase the democratic processes. I guess I would wish my state to secede, considering the current failure mode of the federal state, if I were American.

This collapse has happened to every empire in history by the way.

Or I would probably move to Mexico or Canada or something.

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