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Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by gregoryl »

magnat wrote: post #91
gregoryl wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just pull the trigger. A surprisingly large amount of software just works on wine. I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience, and I finally got the shits with advertising in the start menu. Arch Linux, because I figured why not do it properly? I game a fair bit, and find most things on steam just work.

> I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience Which IDE do you use? JetBrains Rider?

Rider; however that's on a Windows work machine. We are a solid way to getting a linux/mac dev env going; maybe 30% is netstandard2.0, 10% is net9, the remainder net472 (including an old school non-sdk web app on IIS). Maybe ~ million LOC in its 14 year lifespan.

My personal dev is shifting to Rust.

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by mdaniel »

TZubiri wrote: post #208
akoboldfrying wrote: post #38

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> Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway Huh? The source is available on the original site and TTBOMK always has been, you're welcome to compile it yourself.

No one in the history of humanity has compiled a tool from source in windows

Apologies, detecting sarcasm on the Internet is always tricky, but relevant to this discussion I have even gone so far as to make a CMake descriptor for PuTTY because I was compiling on Windows to fix some quirk that I didn't like (it was so many years ago I don't recall, but I did recall thinking "whhhhyyyyy!!!" to people that do cutesy home-grown build systems)

However, it seems that the universe heard my pleas https://git.tartarus.org/?p=simon/putty.git;a=commit;h=c19e7... Replace mkfiles.pl with a CMake build system

For context, I believe that a tool isn't open source unless I can build it, so I actually build almost anything I can from source for that reason

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by 1oooqooq »

perching_aix wrote: post #125
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mingw predates git on windows (and in general), but yeah, indeed. interesting to scan the log on that: https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/blob/main/Rel...

I remember my journey trying to disambiguate Git Bash, Git for Windows, MinGW and MSYS2. To this day, I'm still not sure I have the full story right.

just install msys2.

i cannot imagine windows without it. even wsl garbage pales in comparison

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by 1oooqooq »

samuell wrote: post #205
gregoryl wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just pull the trigger. A surprisingly large amount of software just works on wine. I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience, and I finally got the shits with advertising in the start menu. Arch Linux, because I figured why not do it properly? I game a fair bit, and find most things on steam just work.

Wine can be a bit of a headache if you are on a couple year older distro as it can make it harder to install newer Wine versions. But I found that the Bottles project pretty much solves this, by installing everything in some kind of sandboxed environment: https://usebottles.com/ https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles Has worked wonderfully for the few cases where plain Wine failed.

bottles is garbage. i mean wine is extremely dangerous too... but bottles lie and that make it more dangerous.

they don't have sandbox. only if you install the flatpack AND DISABLE SOME CONVENIENCES you actually get something I'd call a safe sandbox.

but their site lies and make you feel safe while being extremely vulnerable installing cracked games (which is what everyone used bubble for).

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by andrewflnr »

closewith wrote: post #62
andrewflnr wrote: post #47

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It's definitionally the correct domain for Simon Tatham's social media. What are you expecting here?

How would the average person know that?

I just checked his home page: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by Krssst »

Lammy wrote: post #30
oguz-ismail wrote: post #16

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> Terminal Have they fixed font rendering yet? cmd.exe looks better on my laptop

Have they fixed it spying on you? https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/terminal/issues/139

They probably meant conhost.exe (it gets you the regular console on Windows 11).

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by rconti »

rezonant wrote: post #94
thristian wrote: post #80

From the PuTTY FAQ: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html#... Would you like me to register you a nicer domain name? No, thank you. Even if you can find one (most of them seem to have been registered already, by people who didn't ask whether we actually wanted it before they applied), we're happy with the PuTTY web site being exactly where it is. It's not hard to find (just type ‘putty’ into goo…

Unfortunately the person who owns putty.org started to use it to spread misinformation about vaccines and the pandemic, as you can see on the site today. This recently [1][2] got a lot of attention on the web and here on HN, along with a post on Mastodon from the author [3] I imagine trying to disincentivize this and provide another shorter more official looking link is the hope here. [1] https://www.theregister.com/…

Did putty.org once link to the putty software? Or an alternative SSH client? Why did the site ever become popular?

I'm trying to grok this, but all of the posts sort of obliquely refer to things that happened in the past (even the old HN links here), rather than explicitly just explain what the hell happened.

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by herf »

ahmedfromtunis wrote: post #83
thristian wrote: post #80

From the PuTTY FAQ: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html#... Would you like me to register you a nicer domain name? No, thank you. Even if you can find one (most of them seem to have been registered already, by people who didn't ask whether we actually wanted it before they applied), we're happy with the PuTTY web site being exactly where it is. It's not hard to find (just type ‘putty’ into goo…

The first link I get when I searched for "putty" was `putty.org` which, according to the footer: "The PuTTY project or its authors have never owned this domain, registered it, or purchased it." Nevertheless, I can't consider relying on probabilistic algorithms controlled by 3rd parties to be a wise strategy. Also, these days, after decades of habit building and a rise in awareness about scam-related stuff, I think pe…

Google right now lists the title of putty.org as "PuTTY", even though right now this text is only in the footer. Up until August I guess it provided a download link, but the title was not "PuTTY".

Re: PuTTY has a new website

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Post by rconti »

CalRobert wrote: post #46
userbinator wrote: post #19

Somehow, these new long TLDs just feel spammy and "fake" and I usually ignore them when they show up in search results. Unfortunately the .com, .net and .org are already taken.

They were originally a protection racket to shake down brands on the idea they’d have to register them all. Donuts even had the Domain protected marks list which let you pay to block registration but not have the domain yourself

Alternatively, the "popular" TLDs are a money grab by vested interests who already own popular domains.
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