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Re: GitHub was having issues

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I’m really wondering what internally causes this. No one likes it when they have outages, but it keeps happening. Is this a culture thing? Like pressure to ship features fast? Some under staffed teams or lack of ownership on some crucial components?

GitHub is implemented in Ruby (on Rails), and now there is apparently a strong internal push from Microsoft to code everything using AIs/LLMs.

IMO mixing a dynamically typed language, a framework based on magic conventions and vibe coding sounds like the perfect recipe for a disaster.

Re: GitHub was having issues

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Amen, BitBucket outages are regular and showstopping. Self hosting is genuinely more reliable.

Ah, you clearly haven’t worked with the self hosting teams that I have. I hope I never again have to explain to someone that you can’t just “restore the code from the weekly database backup” because the code is in the file system they just osmosed.

That's not the fault of a hosting team though.. that's the fault of a hiring manager, ultimately

Re: GitHub was having issues

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Starting to pretty much desire tools that can do nothing but are just fast at their core competency. Looking at PRs in github and then when toggling to the "files" tab it chocking up or being like "I don't want to display this file because its more than 100 lines" is like wtf you're whole point is to show me modified files.

I am increasingly in favor of inspecting/diffing branches from MRs locally.

We use so many cloud services and SaaS products that it will be quite a shock how fast systems can be. You don't even need to use a local service, just hook up a minimal server somewhere that pulls from slow services here and there. Technically cloud, but not as shitty.

I think modern wait times are crushing for productivity, it is really demotivating and wears you down. Either just skip to another task and get overwhelmed by context switches or you wait and degenerate to a non-thinking troglodyte.

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post #130

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I used GitHub for years in the tech industry, then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it, thought it was such a downgrade. Now I'm back in the tech industry and using GitHub, and I miss BitBucket.

> then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it At least it wasn't Perforce?

I've worked at two game companies and both used both of them. And I went to grad school for game design and used Perforce. So yeah I've ... had the experience.

Re: GitHub was having issues

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I used GitHub for years in the tech industry, then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it, thought it was such a downgrade. Now I'm back in the tech industry and using GitHub, and I miss BitBucket.

Is games not a part of tech?

no

Re: GitHub was having issues

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Is games not a part of tech?

Of course, but there are some oddities in tool use compared to other industries. At my job we use Perforce for version control for example, which I think is more common in the game industry than other solutions for whatever reason. Naturally everyone here hates it.

> Perforce for version control for example, which I think is more common in the game industry than other solutions for whatever reason.

The last game I worked on was like 80gb built. The perforce depot was many terabytes large, not something you want to have on every person's workstation. Games companies use Perforce for a very good reason.

Re: GitHub was having issues

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In regards to an EC2, AFAIK, not necessarily. You pay extra for an elastic IP (IPv4) which is the equivalent to a static IP but the EC2 is assigned an IPv4 address and an IPv6 when IPv6 is enabled.

Beginning in early 2024, AWS began charging for every IPv4 address in-use on your resources. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-aws-public-ipv4-address...

Aw, man. I forgot about that.

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^ Comment on the Nth 100+ GitHub Down thread (every thread is like that). Maybe everyone here is just using it as an excuse to chatter about forges or GitHub being down too much etc. and it has no impact. But if it does and people are honestly fretting they can mirror their repos. Then no one needs to worry that much (except for their cursed CI setups) the next time it happens. And that’s a benefit of peer-to-peer re…

github is more than just the repo, though. Issue tracking, releases, doc hosting, CI, pull reviews, and so on.

You claimed that most projects don’t want/need decentralized development and I gave you an example of how mirroring can make a project more robust. You’re welcome.
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