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Request to HN mods: that the link be changed from https://www.ponylang.io/discover/ to https://www.ponylang.io/ On the second link, as another commenter mentions, the "Try it in your browser" is one click away, near the top. On the first link, it's two clicks away, but the first of those clicks is a perhaps surprising backwards-lick to get back to the homepage... Unfortunately, many of the diehard language enthusiast…
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Was this meant to be a reply to the top-level story, and not a specific comment? It seems really bizarre to respond to “there should be easily-accessible examples of code that demonstrate the language’s key features on the website” with “there’s a $200 conference in South Carolina where there will be a talk on it.” Honestly, it comes across as not just bizarre, but somewhat disrespectful (though I’m sure that was not…
I just clicked the first reply button in a hurry when I saw the Pony thread. It's hard to turn off the conference promoter mode. :-) My apologies.
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Good faith argumentation, or really argumentation in general, went out the window when you started treating whether syntax matters (for this language and in general) as a universal truth / (binary) logical statement rather than just an opinion.
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It's laudable to want work like Pony to get discussed in terms of the most interesting things about it, but the best way to do this is to describe and explain more of what's interesting. It's not helpful to comment about how bad other comments are, and certainly not to cross into attack. Those things feed flamewars, as unfortunately happened badly in this thread. That's what we're most trying to avoid.
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For Pony in particular, the syntax is not important ... it's simply not the point of the language.
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The New Wave of Programming Languages: Pony, Zig, Crystal, Vlang, & Julia - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36911186 - July 2023 (9 comments)
Pony Programming Language - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33970547 - Dec 2022 (82 comments)
We moved from Pony to Rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28777306 - Oct 2021 (175 comments)
Pony – High-Performance Safe Actor Programming - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25957307 - Jan 2021 (152 comments)
Pony, Actors, Causality, Types, and Garbage Collection - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24398469 - Sept 2020 (29 comments)
Pony 0.29 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20370448 - July 2019 (19 comments)
Fearless Concurrency: Clojure, Rust, Pony, Erlang and Dart - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19241427 - Feb 2019 (143 comments)
Pony 0.25.0 released - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18212633 - Oct 2018 (38 comments)
Introduction to the Pony programming language - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17195580 - May 2018 (72 comments)
Pony (programming language) Cheat Sheet - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17118368 - May 2018 (1 comment)
The Snake and the Horse: How Wallaroo's Python API Works with Pony - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16768706 - April 2018 (8 comments)
Some high level information about the Pony programming language - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16619264 - March 2018 (10 comments)
Why we wrote our Kafka Client in Pony - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16264845 - Jan 2018 (95 comments)
Why we used Pony to write Wallaroo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15558051 - Oct 2017 (84 comments)
Pony Performance Cheatsheet - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14999899 - Aug 2017 (35 comments)
Pony: Combining safe memory sharing with Erlang-like actors - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14676505 - July 2017 (62 comments)
An Early History of Pony - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14280565 - May 2017 (8 comments)
Pony language 0.11.0 released - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13846063 - March 2017 (52 comments)
On the State of Pony - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12331458 - Aug 2016 (40 comments)
Using Pony for Fintech [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11849579 - June 2016 (6 comments)
Pony is an open-source, actor-model, high performance programming language - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10902906 - Jan 2016 (57 comments)
Pony – High Performance Actor Programming - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9482483 - May 2015 (124 comments)
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People like to make themselves sound smart and important by finding the most trivial and low effort ways to discount and invalidate your point, instead of expending effort to respond to a more substantial argument that I could easily read from what you wrote. It's just the nature of online forums I think. It's easy (but incorrect) to conclude this place is full of jerks, because sometimes jerks are more likely to res…
Yes, thank you. I found the amount of bad faith in the responses is really rather shocking, but you have a good point about self-selection.
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I appreciate your good intentions re the site guidelines! But I'm afraid you've been breaking them multiple times in this thread by being much too aggressive with other users. This post is one example, and here are two others: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44728708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44722043 It's laudable to want work like Pony to get discussed in terms of the most interesting things about i…
As for Pony, I'm not here to defend it or explain it ... I simply responded to casual dismissals of it on trivial grounds.
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A personal attack is a personal attack ... it's not the target's fault for perceiving it that way. If you're saying something negative about someone then that's a personal attack. Just talk about the subject and the substance, not people. For example, do not write things like "You seem to be struggling with the whole fallacy thing by the way". And FWIW, I think I have a very good grasp of fallacies ... e.g., I know that "no true Scotsman would put sugar on his porridge" is a No True Scotsman fallacy but "certain Scotsmen put sugar on their porridge" is not.
"Why wouldn't you be able to flag it?"
Ask dang ... as I said, I do not have that capability.
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One of the greatest problems in argumentation over the internet is that people gravitate towards acting as if every statement is intended to define a universal truth so they can argue against that strawman.
Indeed; thank you. That's certainly what happened here, together with ad hominem whataboutism. P.S. "please do flag and downvote rather." I don't have that capability, else I would certainly use it. "Surely you can appreciate that their comment was not written in agreement with or support for you" No, I disagree; I think that is exactly what it was--the subject of the comment was your comment, not mine--you wrote of…
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> No, I disagree;
Sure, costs me nothing to take your word for it, so it shall be that way then. Definitely came across like that to me though, so if that was not intentional, maybe it's something for your later consideration.