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Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Frankly it's bizarre that a Linux focused vendor thinks it's better to keep their device drivers outside of the kernel. Why would I buy a rebadged Clevo laptop from Tuxedo where I'm stuck either running their special Tuxedo distro or fiddling around with compiling kernel modules on other distros, when I could buy a much better laptop for the same price from a vendor who doesn't even advertise Linux support and get fu…

I think it was Tuxedo that accidentally ended up with GPLv3 drivers and no ability to relicense them. Which means they can't be upstreamed because GPLv3 is not compatible with GPLv2 (for the same reason CDDLv1.0 is considered incompatible). They either need to track every copyright from the contractors (who AFAIK didn't sign over licensing to Tuxedo) to relicense the code, or write drivers again from scratch.

That was a problem at some point, but I think most of the GPL3-to-GPL2-relicense-issues have been solved by now?

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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post #217

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I think it was Tuxedo that accidentally ended up with GPLv3 drivers and no ability to relicense them. Which means they can't be upstreamed because GPLv3 is not compatible with GPLv2 (for the same reason CDDLv1.0 is considered incompatible). They either need to track every copyright from the contractors (who AFAIK didn't sign over licensing to Tuxedo) to relicense the code, or write drivers again from scratch.

That was a problem at some point, but I think most of the GPL3-to-GPL2-relicense-issues have been solved by now?

Only as of 8 months ago, honestly surprised they even managed at all.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Poor power management has always been the last bastion keeping me from using Linux in certain machines. My desktop won’t sleep or wake up at all (or it will wake but show a grey screen and glitch out) on any distro I’ve tried. Every time I use it on a laptop the battery life is terrible. Makes me sad.

Power mgmt has worked very well on our old Dell precision that came with Linux, and two newer Frameworks (1 Intel, 1 AMD). Basically perfect for over a decade. Battery life could be a bit better but is decent.

Good for you I suppose

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poor power management has always been the last bastion keeping me from using Linux in certain machines. My desktop won’t sleep or wake up at all (or it will wake but show a grey screen and glitch out) on any distro I’ve tried. Every time I use it on a laptop the battery life is terrible. Makes me sad.

Power mgmt has worked very well on our old Dell precision that came with Linux, and two newer Frameworks (1 Intel, 1 AMD). Basically perfect for over a decade. Battery life could be a bit better but is decent.

Also, what’s “decent”? My laptops get between 10 and 20 hours
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