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You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by codethief »

leafmeal wrote: post #98

The thing that's so sticky for me with JetBrains IDEs is their run configurations. Being able to configure all of the environment variables etc. for the actual code that I need to run, especially when connecting to a debugger or tests integrated with the IDE. I haven't seen anyone else complain about this so I figure I must be missing something. Does Zed let you set up run configurations like this? If not, how do use…

> It seems backwards to me to use a fancy IDE, but then run all your code in the terminal.

Having literally spent days at a time just to get a working run configuration at various employers and clients over the past decade, I find it backwards to use anything besides the terminal and version-controlled scripts & task runners / CLIs to fire up anything. (: People rarely document their JetBrains setup fully and even if they do, JetBrains IDEs are not exactly known for their reproducible behavior or for not occasionally messing up your configuration (in case you do decide to check in your IDE config & share with your team).

Besides, you will need those terminal scripts for your CI pipeline, anyway.

That being said,

> I love IDE features like clicking on the test I'm editing to run it, and setting breakpoints in the IDE.

I agree, that is very useful. However, to me it's the cherry on top of proper self-contained run scripts for the terminal.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by vector_spaces »

I've wanted to try Zed but I'm generally antsy about tools unexpectedly phoning home -- haven't had a chance to closely evaluate myself.

A few tinfoil-hat questions: I know obviously it needs to phone someone to use functionality like remote dev or certain integrations, but outside of those situations, does it otherwise perform any kind of telemetry by default? Are there situations where it could ship off tokens in files I'm editing to some remote server where one wouldn't be expecting it? Also, I know it's open source, but is it meaningfully open source in the sense that the prebuilt binaries available for download in the obvious places aren't some reskinned proprietary version like is the case with VSCode?

These are meant in good faith -- genuinely interested and curious

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by echelon »

roguecoder wrote: post #145
echelon wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think AI-enabled is going to be the default for all future code development. Autocomplete is just so good, and I never want to go back. I spent 20 years without it. That's enough for one lifetime.

You spent 20 years without autocomplete? I started using Eclipse's autocomplete & shortcut macros in 2002. It is fascinating to me how much of the enthusiasm around AI seems to be the result of people not knowing about/using the deterministic tools that already exist.

That's not at all the same.

AI autocomplete can generate the entire `match` tree for a very complex Rust enum, and also generate all of the associated tests. It then takes me to the next places in the code where changes need to be made. It's wildly good at knowing exactly what I want to do next.

2002 macros and autocomplete were not that and cannot possibly be compared in the same light.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by Alupis »

jrvieira wrote: post #220
Alupis wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took Zed for a test drive about a year ago, and absolutely loved how butter smooth it felt to use. It's impossible to describe to others... you must experience it to understand what you're missing. However, at least at the time, Zed's extension/plugin ecosystem prevented me from making the jump off vscode. Just like it took me a long while to ween myself off JetBrains and their workflow/plugins, it'll take a long w…

how does it compare to neovim in terms of input lag?

I have not tried neovim, admittedly. Compared to Eclipse, IntelliJ, and now VScode, it's a completely different animal in terms of fluidity and smoothness.

Usually when I've attempted to explain it to others, people counter with things like "but my IDE already feels smooth", etc. I thought so too, until I tried Zed.

My only "complaint" was/is(?) the plugin ecosystem. It's a fairly new editor, so things might change in time.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by xedrac »

cess11 wrote: post #181
dkersten wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When did you last try Zed? If it was recently then that hasn’t quite matched my experience, for me vim keybindings work quite well. But I did think the same when I first used Zed over a year ago.

Is it now possible to import .vimrc, or otherwise configure e.g. the sequence j k to execute Escape?

You can easily configure jk for escape. I don't know about importing .vimrc

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by jchw »

mikaylamaki wrote: post #179
jchw wrote: post #117

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Ah yeah, they have a CLA that forces you to give them a carte blanche copyright license to contributions and they also restrict dependencies to be ones with permissive licensing too. Pretty obvious what's going on here. I hate seeing it happen, though.

FWIW, we plan to sell "enterprise" builds of Zed with SSO, centralized plugin repositories, business-hosted infra, etc. etc. The sorts of features developers don't care about but businesses do. To do that, we have to be able to re-license the codebase and apply these changes. We have a lot of other ideas for business sustainability but the core, offline code editing experience will always be freely available and open…

I don't really expect you to respond but if this is true why not use a CLA that guarantees the code stays open source? The FSFE FLA exists and is prominently used (though optional) by KDE.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by xedrac »

johnfn wrote: post #49

Zed seems really nice, and the usability has come a really long way in the last couple of months. That being said, I have one issue, and I hesitate to even bring it up because it seems so shallow: I hate all the themes! They all look so ugly and amateur. I know this is a really trivial thing, it's like complaining I don't like Python because it uses whitespace for indent or something, but I just can't get over it. VS…

I really like One Dark Pro, but you have to install it from the additional themes link.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by alehlopeh »

johnfn wrote: post #49

Zed seems really nice, and the usability has come a really long way in the last couple of months. That being said, I have one issue, and I hesitate to even bring it up because it seems so shallow: I hate all the themes! They all look so ugly and amateur. I know this is a really trivial thing, it's like complaining I don't like Python because it uses whitespace for indent or something, but I just can't get over it. VS…

Le Blackque is working well for me.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by adastra22 »

vlod wrote: post #204
TiredOfLife wrote: post #201

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Thats why nano exists. At 3am i am not in the mood trying to remember where my 714 page how to save a file and exit vim manial is

I seem to hear this a lot, but there's probably like 10 commands (maybe a few more if you want to be fancy with copy-paste). Note: great if you like nano however! For those that are interested, this will get you 90% there: exit without saving> :q! exit with saving> :wq beginning of line> 0 end of line and edit (enter insert mode)> shift-a delete line> dd insert mode> i stop insert mode> ESC undo> u show line numbers>…

It is easier to remember one command: `nano `
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