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The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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This overlooks a new category of developer who operates in natural language, not in syntax.

So they don't understand the syntax being generated for them?

They don't need to, any more than syntax writers need to understand byte code.

They need to understand what the code does.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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This overlooks a new category of developer who operates in natural language, not in syntax.

Natural language is inherently a bad programming language. No developer, even with the absolute best AI tools, can avoid understanding the code that AI generates for very long The only way to successfully use AI is to have sufficient skill to review the code it generates for correctness - which is a problem that is at least as skilful as simply writing the code

You assume natural language programming only produces code. It is also used to read it.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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> Before proceeding let me ask a simple question: Has there ever been a major innovation that helped society, but only 8% of the public would pay for it? Highways.

pretty much the whole population pays taxes

Would most of the population pay taxes, if taxes were optional?

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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Normal life means collectivism and conformity behaviour?

Do you have a definition of "normal" that doesn't refer to a collective?

Then I prefer non-normal with freedom of choose.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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I feel an urge to build personal local AI bots that would be personal spam filters. AI filtering AI, fight fire with fire. Mostly because the world OP wants is never coming back. Everything will be AI and it's everywhere. I also feel an urge to build spaces in the internet just for humans, with some 'turrets' to protect against AI invasion and exploitation. I just don't know what content would be shared in those spac…

This already exists around 20 years ago and didn't consume as much resources as an AI bot would ... Bayesian-Filters.

Those can be useful, but not really against LLM content. Though neither do I think an LLM-based filter could actually reliably detect LLM-based content.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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That's really great performance! Could you share more details about the implementation (ie which quantized version of the model, how much RAM, etc.)?

Model: Qwen3 32b GPU: RTX 5090 (no rops missing), 32 GB VRAM Quants: Unsloth Dynamic 2.0, it's 4-6 bits depending on the layer. RAM is 96 GB: more RAM makes a difference even if the model fits entirely in the GPU: filesystem pages containing the model on disk are cached entirely in RAM so when you switch models (we use other models as well) the overhead of unloading/loading is 3-5 seconds. The Key Value Cache is also…

Thanks a lot. Interesting that without concurrent requests the context could be doubled, 64k is pretty decent for working on a few files at once. A local LLM server is something a lot of companies should be looking into I think.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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My fintech bank, Qube, is running some sort of croudfunded investment round to add AI. It's super interesting to me in a number of ways. https://www.startengine.com/offering/qube-money The top of the list has got to be that one of their testimonials presented to investors is from "DrDeflowerMe". It's also interesting to me because they list financials which position them as unbelievably tiny: 6,215 subscribing accoun…

Your personal bank has 6,215 customers? How could they possibly cover the costs of even 1 employee?

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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ChatGPT is the 5th most-visited website on the planet and growing quickly. that’s one of many popular products. Hardly call that unwilling. I bet only something like 8% of Instagram users say they would pay for it. Are we to take this to mean that Instagram is an unpopular product that is rbi g forced on an unwilling public?

Agreed. My mother and aunts are using ChatGPT all the time. It has really massive market penetration in a way I (a software engineer and AI skeptic/“realist”) didn’t realize. Now, do they care about meta’s AI? Idk, but they’re definitely using AI a lot
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