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Are we the baddies?

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Re: Are we the baddies?

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No? Just... don't be creepy. I've done this a few times over the last few days alone (in Seattle no less, a city infamous for being antisocial - though I'm willing to accept some were tourists for the 4th). IME, people are actually starved for human interaction.

It makes no sense to have a high risk of getting blasted all over local Facebook groups/Instagram/Tiktok for daring to approach while being ugly when they can use dating apps for zero risk. And if dating apps feel expensive to use, then there is Photofeeler also to validate your attractiveness.

I sincerely recommend therapy. Not trolling.

Re: Are we the baddies?

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> disengagement. That disengagement metric is valuable, I'm not gonna give it away for free anymore. I'll engage and disengage randomly, so no one knows what works. > The boom in digital detoxes, the dumbphone revival among young people That's a market now. It doesn't mean shit. It's a "lifestyle". > People are feeling the manipulation They don't. Even manipulation awareness is a market now. I'm sure there are YouTub…

> I'll engage and disengage randomly, so no one knows what works. Any predictable pattern, including when you disengage, is just another feature for the pricing model. If the model learns you reliably leave after 3 hours, it will simply front-load the surge pricing into that initial window. Analysis: This user loses disengages during 75% of the time and belongs to a group of 5% who do the same. The expected revenue f…

At which point the user disengages from the platform permanently. Great work.

Re: Are we the baddies?

#224

Really? Perhaps this person lived in a fantastic futuristic city before. But for a lot people, getting a cab was not a good experience. Uber singlehanded changed that. And dating apps are not middlemen for dating. They're middlemen for dating outside your social circle , which is always a mess. Whatever subscription you pay to the app per month is probably cheaper than a single drink at a bar anyway.

Right. It's the consistent lack of healthy social circles that is the problem for most people. Either it is staying afloat that sucks all your energy or focusing on "tech will solve problems" but it doesn't.

Re: Are we the baddies?

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I’m increasingly convinced advertising is a huge mistake and just not normal. We don’t need advertising, which fundamentally is little different from lying and manipulation, at all, and society would be a lot better if we denormalized advertising. If a company paying an influencer to talk about them, or placing an ad on a sports game, would be denormalized to the extent that it would lead to people deliberately not b…

If this happened people would complain that "capitalism" made the internet prohibitively expensive.

Re: Are we the baddies?

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post #108

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I think this is what struck me as well. Hearing what I can only describe as radical anti-capitalism coming from George Hotz was not what I expected when I opened that link. That said I have felt the same feelings expressed by Hotz in this post. I commend him for saying it.

Call me crazy, but I think capitalism can exist without mass manipulation.

but then what if line not go up???

Re: Are we the baddies?

#228

What meta structure allows us to get rid of rent seeking behavior? I don’t have an answer - is there scientific research on this? Taxation? Loopholes will be found. Lawfare against it? Lobbying will win. I am amazed by capitalism, but at the same time it is a ruthless machine - and in democratic countries it is highly unlikely that a single political party can force the machine into a new direction. Perhaps that is a…

Social cohesion. People are happy to rip off an outsider, a stranger, a schmuck. But people within a high-trust social group generally don't rip each other off - you still need to be on the look out for fraudsters, but you won't be doing it systematically and virtually openly.

It's not a coincidence that all this has happened as the US' national identity has gotten weaker and weaker. They're shifting from a cohesive nation to one of those "it's a single block on the map but it's actually 200 tribes who all hate each other" countries, and people's values and behaviour are shifting to match.

Re: Are we the baddies?

#229
Sure seems like big tech is on the cusp of killing the open internet by pulling the rug out from underneath bloggers etc.

And the antagonistic algo everywhere world is starting to suck. And google removing their "don't be evil" sure seemed very self-aware.

...but not sure about the whole "needs WW3 to reset" angle...seems a bit much

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