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Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by whimsicalism »

creatonez wrote: post #101

Not surprising that the biggest tech companies are complicit in the biggest war crimes and atrocities of a generation. In the 1940s it was IBM providing holocaust tabulation machines. In the 2020s, it's companies like Microsoft providing the tech infrastructure for AI-assisted targeting and pervasive surveillance in the ongoing Gaza holocaust.

can we stick with the word genocide? i don't understand the need to make constant comparisons with the holocaust - they only undermine the point in my mind and are unnecessarily incendiary. it feels to me to be a product of a certain style of left-wing oneupsmanship

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by boredatoms »

mikewarot wrote: post #130
bigtones wrote: post #7

>> Casper Klynge, a former Danish and European Union diplomat who worked for Microsoft, said the episode was in many ways the “smoking gun that many Europeans had been looking for.” Damn right. Strong evidence that Europe should look after their own, and not rely on the good old US of A. Written by an Australian who thinks we should do the same down here.

I see it as strong evidence we should all run our own servers. Internet Access instead of internet connectivity needs to end. It is possible using IPv6 to make end to end connections without having to do weird hole punching through NAT, etc.

Each house with its own ASN

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Post by threatofrain »

yoavm wrote: post #214
zombiwoof wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> because Israel bought Trump I don't think the US ever had a president who cared less about Israel than Trump. The few times Trump has been on the Israel side seem to be only because Israel was "winning" some conflict, and Trump just prefers being on the winning side. He doesn't seem to care (or understand) the slightest whether Jews have a state, whether they can defend themselves, etc.

What mission does Trump care about beyond a convenient calculus of politics and money?

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by Quarrelsome »

Towaway69 wrote: post #203
Quarrelsome wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the EU does. US corps acquire most of our successful companies.

Having worked in the startup scene in Europe, the main exit strategy was to sell off to the American original - because most European startups were copycats of their American counterparts. So I won’t say it’s all just the US coming in and buying everything up. It was partly European investors wanting to make a profit.

sure but that's a consequence of US firms having that capital. Ultimately all investors and owners want an exit, if not as a strategy, eventually as a retirement plan. It's just that US firms buying you out is the most likely exit in this world.

But the point remains that the EU also innovates. So to suggest that it doesn't and its reliance on US tech is somehow its own fault for not trying, is missing the detail.

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Post by Quarrelsome »

SllX wrote: post #204
Quarrelsome wrote: post #179

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given a future where the US slides into despotism, who would hold it to account and be a champion for its people?

Frankly that is our problem to worry about.

US interventionalism over the course of its existence would make that a form of hypocrisy. Also where would the US be without support of nations like France, Spain and the Dutch Republic in its revolutionary war?

You can't have it both ways, we're intrinsically tied together. I think its important part of friendship to call one another to account.

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Post by FpUser »

JimBlackwood wrote: post #163
SllX wrote: post #156

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Sure, but we’re going to interpret the arrest of a sitting or former POTUS, their direct subordinates or military personnel for the purposes of trying them in the ICC as a political act, not an act to maintain law and order in their home countries and its going to be much easier for us to justify invading and evacuating those people.

That is definitely true. I can imagine the ICC would fall shortly after (since I think enough member states will not execute the arrest order and so it’s existence does not do much)

Then one should add K to ICC as for Kangaroo.

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Post by snickerbockers »

layer8 wrote: post #190
snickerbockers wrote: post #129

How on earth does the ICC plan to arrest Netanyahu or Putin? Even if one of them does make the mistake of setting foot in a compliant country, do they really think arresting a foreign head of state wouldn't be seen as an act of war?

The ICC doesn’t arrest anyone themselves, they issue arrest warrants. The 125 ICC signatory states are required to comply with the warrants under the Rome Statute.

that doesn't answer the question.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

StefanBatory wrote: post #201
dybber wrote: post #125

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Danish digitization ministry will soon attempt a move away from Microsoft because of this. We can only hope that this is only the first step, and that broader move away from US tech companies will follow. https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/13/danish_department_dum...

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When did the US make that threat?

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Post by GTP »

SllX wrote: post #107
jeremyjh wrote: post #98

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That sounds...appropriate? I would have no issues with every living former US President being accountable for their crimes, and I expect they would all be convicted.

It’s not appropriate for an international court that we’re not even a part of to put our Presidents and their subordinates on trial, nor is it something we should meekly concede to.

Do you think the same about the Nuremberg trials? Why?
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