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OpenAI wins $200M U.S. defense contract

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Re: OpenAI wins $200M U.S. defense contract

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Paul Graham tends to be against Silicon Valley participation in the defense industry, while Marc Andreessen is all for it. Palmer Lucky makes a very good case why AI applications in military are a very good thing, and I tend to agree with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooMXEwl7N8Y

It's American technology and industry that won the major wars of the 20th century. If Western technology companies abdicate that responsibility, we will all need to learn Mandarin.

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"Shall we play a game ?"

I was thinking more of this other movie:

"In three years, Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m."

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Uhh... no? Not in the traditional sense of the word, no. It's how we've decided to architect our system. "Corruption" in this context typically refers to an element of dishonesty or theft and so on. If you mean "corrupt" in the ethical sense, then sure, kind of?

So the US taxpayers voluntarily asked their government to give them expensive and shitty health insurance instead of healthcare?

The US government doesn’t run the healthcare system, and yes voters consistently choose to keep it this way.

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Judging from how the DoD currently buys software, lots of money will be spent, many headlines will be written, awards will be handed out, and zero software will make it on to user workstations. End users will continue to use Excel for everything.

You almost had it until the end.

This will be used to generate even more powerpoint.

Re: OpenAI wins $200M U.S. defense contract

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200 mil for a government contract is peanuts when you see how much taxpayer money governments loose via waste and corruption

DOGE found basically nothing, and they worked with an axe trying to cut anything that come close to waste. So I am not sure where you see all this "waste and corruption".

I am convinced that you can find waste (probably not as much corruption) in every modern government. However, you need people to really dive into the processes, ask what and why those have been set up in the past (every rule has an origin story) and if they can be bundled or streamlined. Same with expenses, you need things like forensic accountants and time to understand things.

Doge wanted to take shortcuts and destroyed everything without having alternatives in place. They had hoped for short-term wins, and neither the workers there nor their boss has the attention span or the experience necessary to really understand and optimize processes, thus reducing waste.

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Judging from how the DoD currently buys software, lots of money will be spent, many headlines will be written, awards will be handed out, and zero software will make it on to user workstations. End users will continue to use Excel for everything.

I want to see the 3pao reports from deploying a large llm inside high or one of the iso partitions.

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That 200 Million is chump change only to people who think like chumps. In reality it is total waste, unproductive taxation that doubles as a counter balance to inflation, so doubly wasteful. Chump together all the 100s of millions in waste year over year; the change to your chumping is not good change, its inflation and general impoverishment. Every penny of that 200 is a note in the bank of inflation and degradation…

Is all of that truely "waste", if it is being paid toward onshore companies? The money doesn't disappear, it gets redistributed to American companies.

Broken Window Fallacy.

We could be spending it on things with a much higher return.

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DOGE was never meant to cut "waste, fraud and abuse". It only existed to provide "plausible" reasons as to why they should cut essential programs like medicaid, medicare, social security... So they can now redistribute the stolen wealth to oligarchs through tax cuts and defense contracts. So, more waste, fraud and abuse, less equality, more debt for the poor, worse quality of life for almost everyone, and a national…

Trump's platform was primarily hurting those people that need to be hurt. Hurt the people that are ruining the country. Hurt the others because they're making our life worse.

Improvement to the economy was always secondary.

Please note: I do not condone nor agree with Donald Trump. I am trying to summarize his campaign speeches and platform.

Re: OpenAI wins $200M U.S. defense contract

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>"Value" is a loaded term as used here. Not all value is economic. Most value has a degree of judgement involved. No it isn't. Most value CAN be objectively measured. I'll give you examples. US outspends all the other developed nations at healthcare, education, childcare and yet is behind them all in actual results with poor education, high infant motility and lower life expectancy. That's what waste and corruption d…

> US outspends all the other developed nations at healthcare, education, childcare and yet is behind them all in actual results with poor education, high infant motility and lower life expectancy US healthcare and childcare are private, not government. Likewise I suspect much of the education cost is private colleges/schools, not government. You seem to be arguing that the private sector is less efficient and more co…

>US healthcare [...] are private, not government.

What's Medicare and Medicaid and why do they cost the government over 2 trillion?

On a per capital basis, even if you don't include private healthcare spending, the US stil spends more per capita on healthcare than the other developed countries.

https://www.pgpf.org/article/how-does-government-healthcare-...

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