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Re: Android 16 is here

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The more I compare Material 3 Expressive to Liquid Glass the more I'm excited to switch back to a Pixel. I'm a fan of the use of color, motions, and different shapes versus transparency, minimal contrast, and little color.

I'm on a iPhone 13 Pro Max right now that's still doing well but starting to show battery capacity age. Plus, it's the only non-USB-C device I own so I'd be happy to get rid of it.

Re: Android 16 is here

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I like their Material Expressive design a lot more now after Apple's big reveal. While it's still a bit too colorful and whimsical for my liking, it does stay much closer to what I think should be the top UX design ideal - be clear, legible, and get out of the way . On the new iOS every screen feels like some UX designer is shouting "look how amazing I am at this!!" at me.

> be clear, legible, and get out of the way.

Which none of the current OSs do (except Linux without SystemD or BSDs, with a custom WM)

Re: Android 16 is here

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"Unfortunately, Android has made changes which will make it much harder for us to port to Android 16 and future releases. It will also make adding support for new Pixels much more difficult. We're likely going to need to focus on making GrapheneOS devices sooner than we expected." https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114662145938666044

I can not love this development project enough its the peak of Android custom ROM. I am curious though as to what they have changed so much that it is going to be more difficult.

Re: Android 16 is here

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I genuinely think this is the case, and why products don't have a LTS interface, even though they ought to. Sign me right up for the 10 year LTS interface. I can't recall any features in gmail that were added that I actually use besides labels, which was an early launch feature. But it's been redesigned about 9 times in the last 20 years, each time with increasing white space and/or a slightly different font.

If you need an LTS interface you might be best with one of those old people smartphones with the big numberpad.

If you need change for the sake of change, then maybe your time is worthless.

Re: Android 16 is here

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"Unfortunately, Android has made changes which will make it much harder for us to port to Android 16 and future releases. It will also make adding support for new Pixels much more difficult. We're likely going to need to focus on making GrapheneOS devices sooner than we expected." https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114662145938666044

I can not love this development project enough its the peak of Android custom ROM. I am curious though as to what they have changed so much that it is going to be more difficult.

Oh, they also had the issue that one of the leading devs got forcibly conscripted.

Quickly scanning GrapheneOS's posts I couldn't find any detail about the technical challenges. They'll probably post about it in the coming months

Re: Android 16 is here

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I find as time goes on I am less-and-less excited about mobile releases. I’ve had a smartphone since the Google Nexus 1. The desktop experience is always better, and a good book is even more inviting. Curious what other folks are feeling. A lot of these tools seem like useless frivolity. Meanwhile, I have family who constantly get confused whether the iOS phone icon is FaceTime or the “real” phone; and I have to do m…

Honestly, I'm happy my phone won't get an update. This way I won't be exposed to new bugs. I'm on Android 13 and the only thing I observed when updating from 12 was that now when I switch apps, the screen blinks for split-second, which is incredibly annoying. Functionality-wise, there's very little that can be improved anyway. It's mostly just fiddling with details of the UI here and there. I think we grew up with te…

Android 12 made it possible to have unattended updates possible on fdroid. I sincerely will not recommend an Android version less than 12 at this point.

At some point, we will have something similar on a newer version of Android that we will want and that we can't have with an older version. I don't know what it is yet but i am sure there will be something at some point.

https://f-droid.org/2024/02/01/twif.html

Re: Android 16 is here

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"Unfortunately, Android has made changes which will make it much harder for us to port to Android 16 and future releases. It will also make adding support for new Pixels much more difficult. We're likely going to need to focus on making GrapheneOS devices sooner than we expected." https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114662145938666044

I can not love this development project enough its the peak of Android custom ROM. I am curious though as to what they have changed so much that it is going to be more difficult.

Sounds like there are lots of causes: the project losing a senior dev who got conscripted to fight in a war. Not getting access to an OEM rom early on. Google changing a lot of the code around lock screen and other features (which makes porting over their custom changes on top of it take more time).

Re: Android 16 is here

#229

As someone who's very much on the outside of the Apple / Android debate (though I've never owned an iPhone, I do use a Mac and an iPad), and as someone who's relatively tech illiterate, how does this announcement read in light of Apple's latest liquid glass stuff, and the pushback I'm seeing from almost every angle. Is this Google announcement at all in response to the negative reaction Apple is getting? Does what Go…

I read that IOS will pepvide the battery percentage pn screen (e.g. your battery is 75% charged) and also estimated time to reach 100% capacity when charging

Android had this for 15 years or more...

Re: Android 16 is here

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I agree. It is clear, functional, and reminds me of staged doctor’s offices in commercials for prescription drugs. Apple now is entering their Windows XP design era. Once things get too gaudy they will introduce Flat Glass or pretend like they invented straight lines and sharp corners. But at least that seems to have a personality.

You likely mean the "Aero" stage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Aero While many express nostalgia for Aero in Windows 7, Microsoft dismissed it in fairly harsh terms: 'Microsoft called the Aero interface it once championed and poured so much love upon "dated and cheesy".' https://www.theregister.com/2012/05/21/windows_8_aero_dead/ The thing with [Microsoft's] dictated GUIs is that they all end up on the tra…

There's also another version of the story of why they removed it:

> So basically, Microsoft's claim of Aero being "cheesy" "and "dated" are just lies to cover up the fact where the original Surface RT is not powerful enough to handle them.

https://old.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/38vyn7/the_true_re...

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