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The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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These are so good. After you've lived in Japan for a while you go back to (pretty much any) Western country and feel like going back to the middle ages. It feels outright barbaric not to have this level of hygiene.

I guess it's like going to a place which doesn't use toilet paper?

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In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

Very common in the Middle East too.

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Greece is also like this. I think it’s wild. It’d be okay if they had bidets, but they don’t.

Portugal, too, and that's Western Europe.

Does it? I've only been to Portugal a couple times (Lisbon and Porto) and houses had bidets (standalone), while bathrooms didn't, but didn't have tp buckets either.

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I live off-grid in the deep woods of Sweden with no neighbors; I heat my 125 year old timber house with firewood. For two decades I lived in a fancy flat with all the amenities in a large city. Now I do it in two 100L plastic barrels in my stables that also have an outhouse, each barrel corresponds to one of my needs. I neutralize number 1 with Corega tabs in the warmer months, I neutralize number 2 with a scoop of p…

Shitting in a hole in the ground in the middle of nature is serene but also doesn't scale to population density.

Not "in the ground" in the strict sense, but I'm pretty sure that composting toilets would scale to population density. Same basic idea as shitting in a hole (and probably more useful than water-based toilets).

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Some of the features I really like about my Japanese toilet: * Heated seat * Bidet with warm water * “Omakase” power-saving setting that learns your schedule and turns off the heat during the times you are typically out or asleep. * Flush with a button press vs. turning a handle. This sounds minor, but whenever I have to use a toilet with a handle it is noticeably less convenient as you often have to keep the handle…

My toilet (Kohler, in the US) has a battery that's supposed to last 100 flushes if the power goes out.

When we first got it I always found it funny to ask other people if their toilet had a battery backup.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

Those hand sprayers are an Muslim thing aren't they? That's what I was told by locals in SE Asia. Searching, it comes up

They're pretty common in Russia, too. In Muslim countries they're basically everywhere.

When you're used to them it's very annoying to end up in a country that doesn't have them. Especially the US, which in addition has strange toilets that fill up with a lot of water during normal operation and bathroom stall privacy that begins 30cm above the ground.

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>If its not aimed correctly, where does the splash go? If you're lucky it stays in the toilet boil. However if your aim is off, you can completely miss your anus and either shoot to much under or over which will shoot the water outside of the toilet bowl. so slowly squeeze the trigger to confirm the aim is correct, rather than going full blast at the start?

When I interned abroad in Singapore at a small-time IT firm, the office was in an industrial building that had, uh, less than stellar communal facilities. I at least had the foresight to test the sprayer before use, but I swear it was binary on/off. There wasn't a pressure control knob or anything upstream either. I eventually got used to blasting myself clean, but I still prefer TP.

You are right about Asians ones. The ones I used in India However what I have gotten in american bathrooms are pretty decent with flow control are supply and handle bar depending on how much you squeeze. And with filters and all in place water comes with soft gushing way like American faucets.

In my experience even least fancy American bathrooms are vastly more functional and cleaner by design than what I get in my trips to India in homes or even 4 star hotels.

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Some of the features I really like about my Japanese toilet: * Heated seat * Bidet with warm water * “Omakase” power-saving setting that learns your schedule and turns off the heat during the times you are typically out or asleep. * Flush with a button press vs. turning a handle. This sounds minor, but whenever I have to use a toilet with a handle it is noticeably less convenient as you often have to keep the handle…

> Button to automatically raise and lower the lid. Bonus points if it’s motion activated to raise the lid when you enter the bathroom.

I have this, and eventually disabled it. It's super annoying, and goes off if if I enter the bathroom and go near the toilet for any reason, even if I'm not about to use the toilet.

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In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

I bought $25 versions of this on Amazon during COVID... We did not anticipate or have any of problems you described.

most bidets starts leaking after 6-12 months. It is a flood hazard if the hose breaks.
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