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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch.

I'm getting tired of this whataboutism. We did not have an almost daily turmoil of shit happening in 2021-2024.

No, just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics, and then a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump.

Re: The FTC puts off enforcing its 'click-to-cancel' rule

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This is the danger of data-driven decision making. You can only gather a very, very small subset of all data. So now you're basing your decisions off of a tiny picture, so you end up with sometimes strange conclusions. Conclusions that, intuitively, make no sense. But the data says so, so I guess that's what we do.

I mean, doing it wrong is a danger in any process. Data driven decision making should do every meaningful thing it can to ensure that its small subset of data is representative of the whole picture. If you're careful about being random you can do that pretty accurately with a shockingly small subset of data.

In my experience, data-driven decision making is typically a reverse engineered process.

Typically the decision is already made, usually based on a combination of experience, ego, and emotions. Then you have to find and structure data to justify it to other people. You can find data to justify almost any decision.

Re: The FTC puts off enforcing its 'click-to-cancel' rule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting tired of this whataboutism. We did not have an almost daily turmoil of shit happening in 2021-2024.

No, just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics, and then a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump.

> just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics

that's all terrible stuff but the reality is all that has been happening almost non-stop since the 50s. US foreign policy has always been a shit-show.

what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer

> a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump

which turned out to be even more true than anyone thought was possible

Re: The FTC puts off enforcing its 'click-to-cancel' rule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, doing it wrong is a danger in any process. Data driven decision making should do every meaningful thing it can to ensure that its small subset of data is representative of the whole picture. If you're careful about being random you can do that pretty accurately with a shockingly small subset of data.

In my experience, data-driven decision making is typically a reverse engineered process. Typically the decision is already made, usually based on a combination of experience, ego, and emotions. Then you have to find and structure data to justify it to other people. You can find data to justify almost any decision.

How are you sure this isn't a data-driven opinion?

Re: The FTC puts off enforcing its 'click-to-cancel' rule

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No, just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics, and then a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump.

> just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics that's all terrible stuff but the reality is all that has been happening almost non-stop since the 50s. US foreign policy has always been a shit-show. what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer > a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated,…

> US foreign policy has always been a shit-show

Yes, that's why I said as usual and typical.

> what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer

No, as far as foreign politics it's really same shit different day, we're siding with dictators and meddling with other countries' affairs, economically bullying other countries... Just more out in the open now, and with a somewhat different set of dictators. The only material difference is that Trump's mission is to weaken our global supremacy, which is a mixed bag, as some of that supremacy should indeed go away, but tariffs etc are not the fucking answer.

> which turned out to be even more true than anyone thought was possible

I thought it was going to be even worse. We still have 4 years to find out how bad it gets.

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